Singer 16-188 Industrial Walking Foot

[DesertLeather]

Hi all,

I just came across a Singer 16-188 Industrial Walking Foot that appears complete- table, light, motor, and runs. For $250. Just wondering if that is a good deal. What do they normally go for?

Thanks, Matt

[lamx]

$250 is a good price for any working industrial walking foot machine capable of sewing upholstery, especially complete with table and motor.

Ed

[seamsperfect]

Hi all,

I just came across a Singer 16-188 Industrial Walking Foot that appears complete- table, light, motor, and runs. For $250. Just wondering if that is a good deal. What do they normally go for?

Thanks, Matt

This might help you out if you decide to buy it.
Kevin
http://get-up-and-go.com/upholstery-forum/index.php?topic=11.0

[Gregg @ Keystone Sewing]

Top bottom feeder (not needle feed), good for canvas and leather, IF working and setup correctly.  Parts might be a problem depending on what you may need.  Machine is old as dirt, but that does not make it good or bad. 

[bobbin]

Gregg, I don't really understand what you mean when you say, "top bottom feeder".  Does that mean that it's a drop feed machine with the basic feed dog set up? 

I looked at the 16 class manual and the head looks identical to that of my old 31-15 (c. 1929).  The bobbin is in a race and the hook moves back and forthe, rather than the full rotation of the modern rotary hooks.  I would like to know the proper terminology for that sort of hook set up. 

I know my 31-15 is really a very reliable machine; it's not so good with really lightweight fabrics or those with heavy naps, but it will pretty much plow through about everything else, although multiple, thick layers and cording require more operator skill in feeding for an even result than is required of a needle feed or compound feed machine.  Suffice it to say, I'm not going to trade in my Juki 1541 or Juki 9010 anytime soon.

[Gregg @ Keystone Sewing]

Top and bottom means that it has a top feed, and bottom feed, with no needle feeder.  Drop feed has a top spring loaded foot that comes down, and holds the material in place continuously, with the feed dog below transporting the material.

Lock stitches have two common setup; rotating hook, and a race and shuttle that oscillates, or goes back and forth, to and fro if you will.  The oscillating hook is still very alive and well. 

[bobbin]

Most of the machinery I've dealt with in the past 25+ yrs. has been high speed (rotary hook or loopers). 

What sort of machinery uses a shuttle and race set up? Is this configuration restricted to low speed machinery? is there any sort of automatic lubrication associated with that configuration? 

I like to scope out major machinery manufacturers websites, so if you gave some specific model #s I'd be "all over" them, Gregg.