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Title: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: JuneC on February 22, 2011, 04:27:41 pm
Pics tomorrow. 

Tooling along with my Singer then CrUnCh  :o  Finger stuck in work...  Dang, gonna get blood all over my cover, but I can't go anywhere cause my finger's stuck in the works.  Ok, turn off the motor, cut the thread, grab my screwdriver, unscrew the needle screw.  Still can't figure out how to extricate my finger.  Ok, unscrew left foot and remove.  Still stuck.  Unscrew right foot and remove, turn the wheel till needle's at it's highest point... finally, got my finger out with needle still stuck in the bone.  Now what.  I'm thinking if I don't pull it out NOW, I'm gonna faint and it'll hurt like hell later.  Pulled it out.  The eye all bent to hell. 

Moral of this story - don't EVER EVER sit down to sew at an industrial machine without a screwdriver handy.   Cell phone is nice to have at hand also.  And don't panic.  The adrenaline makes your hands shake and it's hard to undo screws, but it's better than sitting there for 10 minutes saying to yourself "now what?" 

Also, it looks and sounds much worse than it is.  I can honestly say I've had minor paper cuts that hurt worse and bled more.  The needle makes a teeny skinny hole so very little blood and nerves barely touched.  I was sewing again in 5 minutes or so after the adrenaline wore off. 

June
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: fragged8 on February 22, 2011, 05:02:16 pm
OUCH June. just the thought makes my fingers tingle..

I hope it doesn't hurt like hell later.

when you say pics later .. does that mean you were taking action shots ?  :o
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mojo on February 22, 2011, 05:27:25 pm
OUCH.......... Dang June. That had to hurt not to mention scare the heck out of you.

Glad you got it out and you were able to get back to sewing.

Makes me shiver just thinking about it.

Chris
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: MinUph on February 22, 2011, 05:33:45 pm
June,
  It will surly hurt tomorrow. Good job staying calm enough to get yourself free. Remind me of when I stapled the web of my hand between the thumb and first finger to a chair. Luckily I could reach the side cutters and staple remover.
  Keep it clean and Neosporin really works on the pain.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Peppy on February 22, 2011, 05:43:35 pm
Groadie! To the max! Very good job staying calm! I too have stapled myself to stuff. Really and truly sucks! But I haven't had to do a fine motor skills test to get loose. Good advice keeping the screwdriver handy. I had to pull the motor cover I was carpeting over to my side cutters. I hope you have a stiff drink near by. That helps me.

Oh, and-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mike8560 on February 22, 2011, 05:43:57 pm
Quote from: fragged8 on February 22, 2011, 05:02:16 pm

when you say pics later .. does that mean you were taking action shots ?  :o
now thats Moxie
ive come close got caught by the foot heck my fat figer probly woldnt fit under the foot.. that goto hurt though June. i once had a 2" staple take a turn in somem sood and enter my finger proby an 1" once whn i worked at a furniture shop didnt hit the bone though. ???
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: SHHR on February 22, 2011, 06:11:23 pm
Quote from: JuneC on February 22, 2011, 04:27:41 pm
Moral of this story - don't EVER EVER sit down to sew at an industrial machine without a screwdriver handy. 



True, I think I would need one After running my finger through the machine too..... OOHHHHH!, You meant the tool screwdriver.
Kyle
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 22, 2011, 06:42:51 pm
My favorite part of the story?  That JuneC couldn't wait to report this story to the forum!  Talk about camaraderie!
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: seamsperfect on February 22, 2011, 06:45:29 pm
June I feel for you,  fortunately (knock on wood) I have never done that .  My buddy one time shot a small trim nail into the fleshy part of his hand just under the thumb.  They could not see the head or the end so they had to slice him open and take it out lengthwise.........
Kevin
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 22, 2011, 06:56:12 pm
Quote from: seamsperfect on February 22, 2011, 06:45:29 pm
June I feel for you,  fortunately (knock on wood) I have never done that .  My buddy one time shot a small trim nail into the fleshy part of his hand just under the thumb.  They could not see the head or the end so they had to slice him open and take it out lengthwise.........
Kevin


As if I didn't feel squeamish enough after reading the opening post... :-X
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: gene on February 22, 2011, 08:50:16 pm
If the needle did hit the bone:
you might want to check with a doctor, maybe an x-ray, to make sure the bone is OK. Certainly any swelling, discoloration, or numbness is cause for concern. If you get a fever in the next few days to a week that may be an indication of an infection.

Good job on not getting blood on the fabric.

I was surprised that you didn't go on and on and on about the awful pain!!! But then I realized that you are a woman. That's why God gave child bearing to women. He knew women could handle the pain.

Glad you are OK.

gene
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Grebo on February 23, 2011, 01:17:36 am
AArrh June. (https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh158%2Fgrebo2%2Femocions%2Ficon8.gif&hash=29e92861182b01a46714f2dc1485645a)

Hope you feel better soon (https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh158%2Fgrebo2%2Femocions%2Fthsmiley_flowers.gif&hash=d9e056567f12f7835fb7a81cf8ec83fa)

Yep I always have tools to hand plus the cell phone & plasters, but crap I would probably faint..
Just one point, sorry about that  :-[  Apparently you should leave 'things' stuck in  place as the removal tends to do the most  harm, well at least on the blood front anyway.  I don't think it counts for fingers..

We had a good friend who got speared by a 'screwdriver' next to his eye, he actually pulled it out himself & drove him self to hospital  :o , unfortunately he died a week later from the internal bleeding.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: bobbin on February 23, 2011, 03:04:39 am
Oh OWWW!

But, June, isn't it amazing how we manage to maintain thoughtful calm when faced with an emergency situation that requires it??  Whenever I hear someone say, "I could never have done that" I always reply, "yeah you could, when the chips are down you do what you have to do". 

Keep a good close eye on that puncture, and BTW, have you had a tetanus shot lately?
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mike8560 on February 23, 2011, 05:32:21 am
I knew this guy who one day out fishing on a partyboat cought a fish he had to through back it was a heavy fish a d had the heavy rod bent right over.  He found he had to throug
it back so he had
a havt of just shaking it off the hook   He did it this tome and when the fish fell off the rod now sprang straight and the hook shot up
right througjt his thumb. They didn't  head in and he had to spent the rest off the day hook in thumb wrapped up

Ouch.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: SHHR on February 23, 2011, 05:51:11 am
Something happened just last night that made me think of this post. I know you said the whole needle came out, but please keep an eye on it.

About two weeks ago my 8 year old son accidently stabbed himself in the leg with a pencil at school. He stuck it in his front pocket, sat down and right into his upper thigh. He went to the nurse and they examined it, cleaned it up, put a band aid on and all was OK. He forgot to tell me about it that day, so when he did I looked it over and all looked fine with a clean wound and nothing in it. I questioned him and he said the pencil was in one piece. In a few day it got infected and I kept it clean, drained it daily, figuring all will be alright in a day or two. A few days ago things seemed fine with it and I forgot about it, so at bedtime last night I asked to see it. I touched it and just a little infection was still in it, so I removed the scab and saw a big black spot, after working on it a couple of minutes I pulled a 1/2" piece of pencil tip out of the little guys leg. That thing had to of been in there deep because I couldn't see or feel it before.

Keep it clean with a keen eye on it.
Kyle
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: JuneC on February 23, 2011, 06:11:58 am
It's fine actually, no swelling, just a red spot on the fingernail around the hole but it still doesn't hurt - at least when I don't put pressure on it.

Kyle, that sounds really painful!  I'm surprised the little guy could walk ok with that in there.  Funny how the body will expel foreign object.  I've had splinters come out by themselves months later.

Bobbin, actually I can't remember the last time I had a tetanus shot - probably when I was in my teens.  I really need to get one. 

Gene, it was a #18 and the tip of the needle deflected and I didn't have to pull really hard to get it out, so I don't think anything's terribly damaged - other than the fingernail.  Had it been a #22 diamond point, the outcome probably would be different. 

Grebo, that's just awful.  Sorry to hear about your friend.  But you're right, big things need to be left in place and removed by professionals in a hospital setting. 

BTW, gang, no action shots - though I have to admit, I considered it as I sat there.  I'll just take a pic of the "trophy" and post it later - that way you won't be too grossed out.

And you guys with the staplers... be more careful, will you  ::)

June
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Grebo on February 23, 2011, 07:32:30 am
Now you got the silly finger out of the way.
HOW IS THE MACHINE  ;D
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Saddleman on February 23, 2011, 08:43:38 am
It hurts just reading about it!!! Glad it wasn't worse!!!!
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 23, 2011, 10:45:06 am
Quote from: Grebo on February 23, 2011, 07:32:30 am
Now you got the silly finger out of the way.
HOW IS THE MACHINE  ;D


LOL, right, that, poor, poor needle! 

Stop trying to slow you machine down by hand! 

Hope all is well, and your finger is not hurting.  I have customers who have many needle in finger stories, and happens quite often.  Most canvas or upholster machines are not going to slow down one bit for a finger.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: JuneC on February 23, 2011, 06:41:21 pm
Yep, here's what my finger did to that $.50 needle...  (the thread used to be white) 

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe225%2Fjune-c%2Fth_P1010234.jpg&hash=0b62e404736adc3a02d9c98ede797766) (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/june-c/P1010234.jpg)

I'll be more careful - at least for a while.  I still don't quite know how it happened.   But happily the machine is just fine.

June
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mojo on February 23, 2011, 06:54:24 pm
It seems that monotonous tasks in trades can create these accidents.

I watched a guy nail his hand to the roof of a house using a pneumatic nailer. I also seen a guy nail his foot to a 2 x 4 using a Pneumatic framing nailer.

The worst injury I ever had was when I was out pheasant hunting and my shotgun misfired, hitting me in the calf. Painful was an understatement. They did shoot me up with morphine while they dug the pellets out of my leg. I was damn lucky I didn't do more damage then what I did.

Funny thing is they thought they got all the pellets out. A month or so later two surfaced and I popped them out myself.

I have hit my finger a couple times with the foot. I jerked my hand out so fast due to fright. It startled the hell out of me. :)

Keep an eye on the wound. If it starts looking infected get in and get it looked at. There are a lot of bad super bugs out there that can be hell to battle with antibiotics.

Chris
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: seamsperfect on February 23, 2011, 08:07:40 pm
That reminds me I had my sharp German scissors next to my foot and as I got up my foot kicked them in the fleshy part (like my earlier story) under my thumb.  The good thing was it did not actually go into the flesh but ran between the skin and the muscle a good 2.5".  Fun sewing that day, better than cutting out materials.
Kevin
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: SHHR on February 24, 2011, 11:19:06 am
does anyone else notice that when something like this happens the humidity and temperature in the room suddenly goes way up?
Kyle
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mike8560 on February 24, 2011, 01:55:17 pm
June did your finger go over the foot and under the needle or under the foot? My finger dose t fit under the foot it could get caught from the neee over the foot.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Grebo on February 25, 2011, 12:23:56 am
Quote from: SHHR on February 24, 2011, 11:19:06 am
does anyone else notice that when something like this happens the humidity and temperature in the room suddenly goes way up?
Kyle


Yes   ;D
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: baileyuph on February 25, 2011, 06:15:56 am
Gosh June, good to see you are coming back, been reluctant to say anything because when things are going for the better, best not to wqke the baby.

Don't push it, BTW, took your advice.  There are two screw drivers at each machine and the screws have been backed off to half tight.  ;)

Your spirits are encouraging,

Doyle
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: JuneC on February 25, 2011, 06:45:56 am
Mike, it went under the foot.  You'd be surprised how flat that presser foot can make your finger when you're running along  :o  Don't assume it won't fit.  It was probably the pinch that hurt the most.  All's healing well and I can again type fast with it without any pain.  I just have to keep a bandaid on it till the ripped nail's grown out. 

June
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: bobbin on February 25, 2011, 07:05:23 am
I think you ought to frame the needle and the thread and keep it on your desk.   ;)

(gonna treat yourself to a needle guard or do you think you've "accident-proofed" yourself sufficiently?)
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Tejas on August 23, 2011, 02:25:39 pm
My apologies for resurrecting an old thread, and moreover I'll no doubt prove my status as a tyro sewer and log-time lurker. Since I got a servo motor from Gregg, I'm not quite so terrified of sewing-up my finger. However, the other day I noticed the mention of a finger guard, and upon further searching found this link.

http://www.universalsewing.com/tek9.asp?pg=search&mode=results&searchby=Products&srch=&usssearchby=header&usscriteria=520.1
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: gene on August 23, 2011, 04:42:09 pm
That looks like something the surgeon would screw to your finger after you put stitches through the finger bone.

I have a guard on my standard presser foot only because I have never taken the time to take it off. I think someone on this site said that if you are so tired to be sewing safely, you should not be sewing.

Thanks for the link.

gene
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: christwo on August 23, 2011, 06:26:11 pm
Man, I feel for ya June. I can relate with puncture wounds allll to well. Apart from stapling my fingers countless times, before upholstery I worked as a carpenter. One day I was nailing a stud into the bottom plate and had the nail gun laying on the ground next to me. When I kneeled down to stand up I kneeled on the safety of the nail gun, which is right where the nail exits, and grabbed the nail gun by the trigger, and BAM. 16 penny nail right into my knee, stopped on bone. It actually sucked my jeans into my knee! Suprising thing was that it did not hurt at all when it happened, it was more of a warm sensation. So I pulled the nail out and kept working. Next day i woke up and could not even walk. Went to the doctor and had it x-rayed, he said he could not believe how lucky I was, it had hit the tibia in the knee, and stopped. Didn't fracture it or nothing, merely punctured it. Never the less it hurt for about 2 weeks, and I had to walk around on crutches and take an absence from work. But I feel for your finger, because they are sensitive and it will be sore in the morning no doubt. Hope all is well!
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mojo on August 24, 2011, 05:15:32 am
I watched a roofer using an air nailer nail himself to the roof of a new house I was having built. he screamed and had his brother come over and pull the nail out for him. He loaded up and went to the Doctor for a tetanus shot.

Shortly after that a framer was erecting an interior wall and nailed his foot to a stud and the bottom plate. He was toe nailing 2 x 4's which were the wall studs to the top and bottom plates. He would beat the stud into place and then hold the bottom of the board with his foot while he nailed it. The air gun went bang and the 16 d nail went through the 2x4 at the wrong angle and into his foot. He hobbled around for a few days but was fine. Again he also had to leave to get a tetanus shot.

So the joke on the jobsite was " be careful, Chris's house has a habit of hurting you ". :)

Chris
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: christwo on August 24, 2011, 06:46:20 am
Ha!, Talk about a bad habit.
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: Mike8560 on August 24, 2011, 09:10:24 am
 I saw a guy o. A party boat I was fishing on. He caught a fish but had to let it go. It was probly close to ten pounds. He  was Golding it up with the stiff boat rod.  Tip bent over.  Then either the fish shook or he shook it. But the fish came off and theoaddd rod shit the big hook right throught is thumb as he was Golding the line above the fish before it shook off. 
They cut the tip and barb of but couldn't get it out.  He had to spend the whole day that way. 
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: christwo on August 24, 2011, 09:12:53 am
Oh man, I was on a fishing boat one time and a guy went to cast out, and hooked the deckhand in the mouth! The deckhand was pisssssed! The guy didnt realize what he had done and kept tugging on the pole!
Title: Re: Ruined a perfectly good needle today
Post by: MTupguy on August 25, 2011, 02:32:45 am
Guess I won't be freakin' out so much next time I shoot a 9/16" staple into my finger.... or have my boss pull it out for me!  "Groadie to the Max!"  Love that expression-- heavily under-used!