Whatch out for wasps

[kodydog]

Rocketman your killing me here. I haven't been stung in years and like Darren it usually goes away in a few hours. But I'm dying to know what you have.

[Darren Henry]

when Mom and Dad were teens; the farm cure for a bee sting,etc... was a chewed up tobacco poultis. Eating tobacco, the end off your cigar,pipe tobacco--- chew it to a fine paste and dress it onto the sting to extract the poison.

[gene]

Let's take bets! I bet rocketman posts a link to a V i a g r a   site.

Hey, if you type the above "V" word without any spaces between the letters, just like you would normally type it, it will be deleted from your post when you save the post. Kool!

More people are killed by bee stings in all of North America than by any other animal, sea animal, or insects. It's the allergic reaction: often causing the throat to swell up.

The mosquito kills more people world wide than any other living thing.

So, the next time a brown bear is gaining ground on your sorry a@@, just remember that it could be a lot worse.

gene

[Peppy]

I go for preemptive medicine, I cut them in half with my shears. Seems they're not afraid of the snips and don't mind to much being cut in half. I've found many dead (thankfully) hives, never found live ones. Only good thing about winter I guess.

I want to hear this secretive sting cure. Lay it on me.

[Mike8560]

 heard baking soda in a payste rub it on the sting draws out the venom or whatever

[RocketmanMH1]

Well I guess if I save three people from the pain and anguish I have been through, I guess it will be worth it. O k I know some of you are going to cry BS on this one but I KNOW!!!!!!! THIS !!!!!!!! WORKS!!!!!!!.   First of all you need to know how it works more so than why.... A sting  is just an injection of venom as a self defense tool for the wasps and other stinging critters.  The venom is made up of compounds found in the system of all stingers, they all vary from region to region but their main component is protein......The most effective way to break down this compound is electricity,   I know , I know just be patient here....   It doesn't have to be a high voltage,  This gadget you can get at any farm store or its equivalent.  You go to the store and get a little thing called a grill igniter..... not the kind with the flame on the end ::) ::).  You need to get the little one that is built into most gas grills today that makes the little arc :o.   Then take a piece of copper wire bend it around the little end with the attachment threads make it wrap around two or three times and slide or screw it on until it makes good contact with the ground lug coming out of the side...then make a 90 degree bend towards the little end that makes the spark, bend that end so that it makes a little circle or square that is flush with the shocker end , but not touching it, when you push the little clicker button this will send a minuscule arc to the copper wire,  the object is to place the copper wire ring over the sting and press the button so the current goes through the affected area,  I know some of you guys are saying who wants to go through all that trouble for a little sting and what about the pain of the shock.  Well its nothing more than a tickle and the people that are allergic will definitely know its worth it    if they try it. I used to run a pest control route during some slow times and I used this for me and any of my customers that had been stung, Some of the stings only took one pop from this gadget some took as many as five, but never more than five, I was just stung two weeks ago on my foot by some unidentified flying object and it took three pops, within seconds the pain is gone...I don't mean starting to feel better, I mean gone!!!!!!!!  Within min. the swelling is going down. I can't relay in words how good it feels to know that I won't have to go to the hospital again for anaphylactic shock. This device has changed my life.  I may get aggressive and try to learn how to post a pic. of mine so you all can see one..


Mike

[gene]

Rich is talking about the swelling going down. Obviously I lost the bet in thinking that he was going to put up a link to a v i a g r a site.

I did a quick google search and there are folks all over the world who use the same treatment on bee, snake, and scorpion bites. Absolutely amazing. I learn something new every day.

I wonder if my dog's electric collar that I use when I take him for walks would work? I have never felt the shock, but my wife says it's like a static electric charge you get off a metal surface. It certainly gets my dogs' attention.

Rich, I wonder if you got stung, could you drag your feet across a carpeted room and then touch the stung area to a metal surface? Would a static electric charge be enough to do the trick?

Thank for the info.

gene

[kodydog]

I once had a Labrador Retriever that would not obey. I joined a dog training club and attended 3 beginner classes. The dog knew the commands but refused to respond to them. I bought a remote electric training collar but before I used it on the dog I tried it on myself. Static shock is a good description. The collier changed the dogs attitude. And the training saved his life once.

I imagine Mikes invention is a tad more powerful but in an emergency I'd take the hit.

[Darren Henry]

I totally buy into Mike's "secret",but I believe it has more to do with overloading the nerve endings with more electricity than they run on than anything else. We've all heard of people who suffer extreme trauma and comment on the lack of pain, yet a paper cut hurts like heck. Once the nervous system has been stimulated to a certain point , it just dis-engages for a while. This would pre-empt  swelling and allow a normal blood flow which would "wash away" the toxins IMHO. I'll have to ask my sister the nurse, but from what I remember of university-- makes more sense than dissolving protein in 30 seconds.

[triangle of three dots] given that the above is true: the stimulus would have to be administered to  a limited number of neurons to be effective. Leaning on the electric fence or hugging your dog on his way out of the yard is questionably effective. 8) 

[kodydog]

Sunday mornings I like to listen to the Garden Rebel on local FM station. He is a certified landscape designer and gets stung on a regular basis. He swears by this product,

http://www.stopthesting.com/

Check out the video.
They make no clames as to medical emergancies but if I were one of you boat guys, sticking your hands into tight places, I'd keep a bottle of this in the truck.

[JuneC]

Darren, I'd bet it doesn't dissolve the protein, but probably cooks it.  It's in such miniscule quantities that they body can then dispose of it.  Sounds very plausible to me. 

June

[gene]

Mike, I have no idea why I kept calling you Rich.

I've known several folks who did not leave their house without a bee kit.



Kodydog: I have a yellow lab. Every two months or so he starts to ignore my commands. He will begin to hesitate when I call him. The hesitations get longer, and longer, and eventually he will totally ignore me. I push the 'nick' button on his shock collar and he is obedient for another 2 months or so. Then it starts over again. He is a very intelligent dog.
   I once meant to push the 'nick' button and I pushed the 'buzz' button which is about 2 or 3 seconds long. I hadn't checked the setting and it had accidentally bend turned to 100. My dog jumped off the ground. I felt really bad. I told my wife about it and she said, "Good for him!" I'm glad us husbands don't have to wear a shock collar.

gene

[RocketmanMH1]

It is amazing how many opinions can come to light on a subject such as this. I will be honest with everyone... I don't care exactly how it works I just know it works fast and reliably for me , as well as many people in my family and friends.  In an earlier post someone said it could be used for snake bites also,  this is true, a friend of mine was on a mission trip in mexico about four hours from medical care when he was bitten by a rattlesnake. He keeps these poppers with him at all times for any such emergency, in addition to these he keeps a (throttled down) for lack of a better term , taser with him that has been reduced to 25,000 volts.  This one is used on snake bites and severe stings.  Anyway he carefully removed himself from the snakes area and proceded to pull up his pants leg to see how bad it was, pressed the area around the bite and knew that he had been injected with venom. He claims to have not panicked but I know I would have.  So he says he hits the bite 10 to 20 times and cleans it with supplies from his first aid kit, and just sits and waits to find out if it works or not, It does and he walks the 4to 5 miles back to his truck without any negative effects.   As far as I'm concerned it nothing shy of a miracle for me to have found out about this gadget, not many people know about this from what I see on the internet, I'm just glad I don't have to deal with out of date,$ 35.00 epi pens anymore.



Mike

[kodydog]

   I once meant to push the 'nick' button and I pushed the 'buzz' button which is about 2 or 3 seconds long. I hadn't checked the setting and it had accidentally bend turned to 100. My dog jumped off the ground. I felt really bad. I told my wife about it and she said, "Good for him!" I'm glad us husbands don't have to wear a shock collar.

gene

Geez Gene! Don't give the ladies any ideas. I'll never be able to ignore my wife again.

[Grebo]

Wasps, reminds me of our recent holiday. Had the two dogs in the van driving around Switzerland. All of a sudden there's this frantic snapping sound from the back, WTF ?  We pull over real quick & I jumps in the back with the dogs. There is a Bee dead? on the seat & one dog is still snapping her teeth. So I grabs her muzzle & opens her mouth, caught sight of something, the stinger I guess, sticking out of the inside of a cheek & pulls it out quick.
Well apart from pukking up soon as we stopped she was fine just walked about with a thick lip for the rest of the day.  ;D

Suzi