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Title: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on February 28, 2011, 11:54:03 am
hiya

has anyone done the seating on a 2855 bayliner ?
my customer wants me to re-design his L shaped
bench seating to something nicer.

He wants me to make it a wrap around L shape seat
complete with the bayliner type cup holders. I will have to construct
the framework to do this as his backrests are supported with stainless tube
mounted on the hull.

Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Peppy on February 28, 2011, 05:25:34 pm
I've done those benches before. They can be built. It'd really speed things up if you had one near-by to copy. Just to get an idea for the angles and general shapes. It's not like they're dovetailed inside them but there are a lot of angles.

I'd guess at a week? Build/foam/cut/sew/upholster/install. The boss would probably say 3 days. And he would be right. Because I wouldn't tell him about the other 2 days I spent napping in the foam pile... I'm just kidding.

(I nap in the boats.)
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on February 28, 2011, 05:39:27 pm
ricch the L seatr do you meen it dosent have a back all te wy for the L? is this your fatherlaws boat?
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Therapy on March 01, 2011, 05:17:10 am

  What year is it?
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 01, 2011, 06:42:33 am
hiya

It's a customer Mike, my step dads is a 2955 with a square C shape bench.

It's a 2001 model 2855, I have some pics but i think they are at my workshop
and i'm at home today. I'll post them up tomorrow.

What the customer is after is something like the C shaped bench seats with
a built up backrest and a triangular piece in the corner of the L so i can put
cup holders in there.


Rich
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Peppy on March 01, 2011, 04:29:47 pm
I thought I had a picture but I only have this...

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1020.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf328%2Fpeppypower%2FBoats%2Fth_P5080003.jpg&hash=ab3d58025319b9a6674189bcc803d092) (http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/peppypower/Boats/?action=view&current=P5080003.jpg)

...a half rotten one in pattern mode. And this...

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1020.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf328%2Fpeppypower%2FBoats%2Fth_P2100004.jpg&hash=b730cc1aaf89acf055337851a269eb54) (http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/peppypower/Boats/?action=view&current=P2100004.jpg)

...almost the same idea but from a Cadorette.
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 01, 2011, 05:28:06 pm
if hes got the room and money it can be done. got some seats out a pontoon all waterloged sittign in the shop and the water drained out but it came out like thick mayple syrup ive never seen this gbefore it wa sdripping onn the table just like syrup would slowly . t must have been the glue commming out of the wood.
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 02, 2011, 02:47:07 am
hey peppy thats the idea , I'm not sure he's willing to spend a fortune
but a simplified version of the second pic you posted will be close.

i did find this which should keep the cost down

http://www.indycovers.com/images/1989Bayliner3.jpg

how many hours did you invest in the bottom one ? bet you can't remember heheh

Oh yes i got it wrong the boat is a 2755 not a 2855.

I just love those abused seats don't you mike, they make a total
mess of your bench and you can't charge the customer the couple of
hours it takes to clean up ...

Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 02, 2011, 07:50:14 am
That pix rich looks lime my Buddys 27 bayliner would you have to build a base also?
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 02, 2011, 12:07:15 pm
hiya guys

I just found this on a 2455.
http://baylinerownersclub.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=32689

there is some stuff on the owners site for the 2755 but i can't get my
access approved yet :-(

spoke to the owner today and he wants soft squishy seats with some colour
like peppy's green/green stripes. I'm thinking knee roll bases using a nice soft
foam on top of some firmer seating foam. ?

this is the area to work with, he wants to lose the stainless backrest and have
a more Bayliner type seat. I've never made bench construction like that so this will
be interesting. And he's upped his budget  :P

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo194%2Ffragged8%2Fth_100_2914.jpg&hash=9bc48b56fb4ebc7d0630bacd20769b1c) (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o194/fragged8/100_2914.jpg)
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo194%2Ffragged8%2Fth_100_2915.jpg&hash=3956d8b54dd8ab8724c34d5f6853ee24) (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o194/fragged8/100_2915.jpg)
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo194%2Ffragged8%2Fth_100_2922.jpg&hash=bbad2c8da9b7c9a5c4c8cd67ae5f52ce) (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o194/fragged8/100_2922.jpg)

I haven't asked him yet but i'm looking at something like this .
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo194%2Ffragged8%2Fth_401188256.jpg&hash=2543c161c58b11e3336f955e4d725a13) (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o194/fragged8/401188256.jpg)
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo194%2Ffragged8%2Fth_401188255.jpg&hash=1daeb8abf2b2b26b95696817a35885ce) (http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o194/fragged8/401188255.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 02, 2011, 03:47:34 pm
id make somthing tike your last pix rich my bayliner had somthing simm on the bridge the v=base i see is the glass roof over the aft cabing i woulder if you can find a place to srew  in from down there i see you vold from the locker ?

they should give you a passwork soon proby "cloud"
id like to find one of theese again i had one b4 nice boat for the $
http://baylinerownersclub.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=475&g2_serialNumber=2
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 03, 2011, 06:11:13 am
Hiya

i think that last seat will do it , i just need to work out the frame.

I love the Trophy Mike . we are starting to see more of those over here
those Polar 23's are floating my boat at the moment. I like the coloured hulls
but i dont expect theres much difference between the Bayliner Trophy and the
Polars or Grady white is there ?

should have searched this board :-)
http://get-up-and-go.com/upholstery-forum/index.php?topic=7852.0
thx Highvelocity

and you been holding out on me June hehehe
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/june-c/starboardbench.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/june-c/installedbench.jpg


Rich
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Peppy on March 03, 2011, 07:06:38 pm
I think it was in the 2 1/2 day area Rich. Strip/pattern/cut/sew/upholster. I'd add 2 days? for wood and foam. I'm not good at estimates, I'm a good over-compensator. The trick will be building something that's comfortable. I'd do like Bayliner with the seperate 'lumbar cushion' screwing into the back. Then in the seat only stretchers/listings not that back tacking mess you see in some of them.

I like those Trophy's. Nice boats. You know. For a Bayliner

Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 04, 2011, 03:39:40 am
A here you. Go pep the old bagliner stuff ;)
I agree they did cut allot of corners early 80s  but still had mercruiser parts like the rest.
Here's is my last bay a 3218 I had to sell her because of a bridge where I moved
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/BLue%20Dolphin%201/stumppassanchorage002.jpg
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Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Therapy on March 04, 2011, 04:40:22 am
     The bashing will never stop Mike
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: JuneC on March 04, 2011, 06:05:45 am
I built that seat years ago, Rich.  I haven't had to construct anything lately.  That was for a Scarab. 

And yes, Mike, the Bayliner trashing will never stop.  They're still cutting corners, as always, but for very many markets, it's more than adequate.  If I lived on a lake up north where I only boated a few months a year, I'd have to consider one.  They offer a lot of living space for the length.  But for ocean cruising, I don't think I'd trust one. 

I believe the Trophy line is actually better than their cruisers. 

And, Rich, I always thought Proline was a pretty will built cuddy.... till we had one in the yard and took it apart.  The fridge was hanging on the front cabinet with no support underneath, the wiring was all wrong, they used plain metal covered buttons on the interior upholstery (and they rusted and stained the whole lot), and the list goes on.  I would not buy a Proline. 

June
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 04, 2011, 09:06:53 am
its a case of you get what you pay for, the cheaper boats are cheap for a reason.

my Quicksilver 500 is only £15k brand new and it comes with a pilothouse
engines are extra but it's a lot of boat for the money, BUT .. they have cut corners
in building but i accept that other wise it would have been £25k new..


What i'm looking for guys is pics of the actual seat frame construction on its own

I asked to day about the Foam PVC June and it was about £120 for a sheet
so i'll be using ply :-)

AND !!!!  i bought a new foam saw today  :o :o :o :o :o :o
i'll let you know how i get on with it ..

rich
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 04, 2011, 10:10:19 am
I wouldnt take it far off shore June no reason to. I. Brought  it down from tampa at she was fine I'd jut do the icw when I bad her.  Now my cobia center console I had her 30 mile out grouper fishing.  
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: fragged8 on March 04, 2011, 10:21:26 am
i've had my stepdads 2955 offshore in the North Sea

no problems.

Mind you i've always been a blowboater,  sailors are just having fun
in a force 6 when all the motor boats are hiding in port . hehe

I remember leaving Calais, France in a force 5 and there was no
way the big motor boats were going to leave   :o
Title: Re: Bayliner 2855 Seating on sunbridge
Post by: Mike8560 on March 05, 2011, 12:29:35 pm
Quote from: JuneC on March 04, 2011, 06:05:45 am

And yes, Mike, the Bayliner trashing will never stop.  They're still cutting corners, as always, but for very many markets, it's more than adequate.  If I lived on a lake up north where I only boated a few months a year, I'd have to consider one.  They offer a lot of living space for the length.  But for ocean cruising, I don't think I'd trust one.  
 

June

that what I like about the gulf. Most days  especialy in the summer it is like a lake (https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi782.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy102%2FMike8560%2Fth_100_0141-1.jpg&hash=f349186524f10b07e810d2d7a12c96b7) (http://s782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/100_0141-1.jpg)(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi782.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy102%2FMike8560%2Fth_100_0139-1.jpg&hash=1e9f4ea3832100c91241944979239d68) (http://s782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/100_0139-1.jpg)