http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwTUZnO0FxU&feature=related
At 4:20 on this video the guy puts his bobbin in the machine. At 4:35 he squirts oil on top of his bobbin. Is this normal? Am I supposed to be doing this with my Juki LU 562? Wouldn't the oil get all over the thread?
Thank you for your replies.
geene
My wife is my sewing teacher and her teacher was an expert in sewing and machine machine repair. She says oil the outside of the casing that surrounds the bobbin every time you change bobbins.
He sure did oil that bobbin but with vinyl maybe not as big a deal.
Oil on the thread will leave marks on fabric. Ask me how I know.
I've always done that. I've never seen a manual that said to do it, though. On my machine, I can hear a distinctive difference when I oil around the bobbin case. It's more of a smooth glide sound than a metal-to-metal clanking sound.
I especially do it when I'm throwing myself a bobbin winding party, and I'm running the empty case wide open.
My Juki LU-1508 is supposed to have a self-oiling hook, but it doesn't get the oil up around the bobbin case enough to satisfy me.
IMHO, you should do it. As long as you put a drop between the bobbin case and the hook chamber, you shouldn't have a problem with oil on the thread. At least I never have.
BTW I finished watching that video. Did you notice at the 6:53 mark that he just glossed right over the french seam part? That was what the video was supposed to be about.
When I bought my machine the little old man showed me a new feature on the case where I should put a drop of oil every time a bobbin was changed. He also said be sure to put a drop between here and here,(bobbin case/hook) that he didn't trust the 'new' feature so much. I have always done this on every machine I ever used. Same here with a winding party Sofa. I try to treat my machine like a beautiful, poised woman. Thank God or both
I do that alo normaly ill oil before i insert the bobin, never had tropuble actully ive seen oiler that oil the top thread i suppose to wear less on the guides. so i dont see a difference top thread or biobbin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGPeVBk84Jo
Thanks for the comments. I've always wondered about the bobbin since it's metal spinning on metal and there was no oil.
Yes I noticed that he skipped the french stitching. I also noticed that he uses a lot of silicone spray. Does anyone else use that much silicone spray? Merv Knutson, who put out upholstery how to tapes, used silicone in a pneumatic sprayer and put a cloud of that stuff all over the place.
Mike, I don't think I ever sew long enough and fast enough to get needle burn on my thread. I'll skip buying the thread lubricator. If I see smoke coming up from my needle, I could always spit a bit of coffee on it, now that I have my new sewing machine coffee cup holder. LOL
gene
Quote from: gene on February 21, 2012, 08:05:18 pm
I also noticed that he uses a lot of silicone spray. Does anyone else use that much silicone spray?
I don't. He even sprayed around the chair frame, and seat before mounting the seat onto the frame. Unless it was a really tight fit, I saw no reason to do that.
Also, he notched the boxing, and the top panel in the middle, sewed halfway around, then flipped it over and sewed the other half. I do this when I have a pattern to match. But with a plain solid, I just start in the back, and sew all the way around.
Quote from: fingers on February 21, 2012, 07:42:11 pm
I try to treat my machine like a beautiful, poised woman.
What's the difference between a female jogger, and a sewing machine?
A sewing machine only has ONE bobbin'.
:o Thats a lot of oil, isn't it ?
I just pop a small spot in under the bobbin ::)
Suzi
Sofa, while we're on the topic of bobbins....part of my route to work is along this popular exercise path. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EEuhBPzp_Q There's always nice scenery one way or another. Sure, I could take a quicker route
fingers: Here's music that you can add to your video. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEnJDaqT3-0
The reason I bought a walking foot machine was to be able to match the pattern by starting in the center, sew one direction, flip it over, then sew the other direction. I was surprised how much I still need to be careful so the two sides are sewn similarly. It can still be easy to get one side stretched out differently than the other side.
gene
Quote from: fingers on February 21, 2012, 07:42:11 pm
What's the difference between a female jogger, and a sewing machine?
A sewing machine only has ONE bobbin'.
Now that was a good one, brightened my morning. ;D
Quote from: fingers on February 22, 2012, 03:35:42 am
Sofa, while we're on the topic of bobbins....part of my route to work is along this popular exercise path. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EEuhBPzp_Q There's always nice scenery one way or another. Sure, I could take a quicker route
Dang fingers I thought we were going to get to see one bobbin. I watched the whole video.
As someone who does a lot of wood touch up and repair, silicone is evil in a can. I just finished fixing up a chair with water damage that was four times as difficult as it should have been because of all the *#()* Pledge on its wooden parts.
Silicone oil causes finishes to "fish eye" meaning it pulls away and craters. It's awful to have to deal with and you can never really get rid of it, even stripping does not remove it. I say, "Silicone is like herpes; once you have it, you have it forever."
I will occasionally use it on my hand-sewing needles. But I spritz a bit onto the cloth that hold them and then I run the needle on the cloth. Before I touch anything else, I wash my hands thoroughly. I would never use it in my shop or finish room. You can even get it transferred from door knobs, etc.
For those that are having the same problems, the best you can do is isolate it on the wood with a couple of light coats of shellac, sprayed on, before you start other work such as color restoration. http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=245 So, "Kill the fish eye with the bulls eye"
Quote from: gene on February 21, 2012, 08:05:18 pm
Does anyone else use that much silicone spray? Merv Knutson, who put out upholstery how to tapes, used silicone in a pneumatic sprayer and put a cloud of that stuff all over the place.
Sorry Kody, I'll do better next time. Use your imagination...it's a bright, crisp morning or a balmy afternoon, heck, it's all good. The point is there's a two mile stretch with 'ample' opportunities.
I no longer own a vertical axis bobbin machine. But I work on them at work. I oil them at least once a day and I never simply drop oil indiscriminently into the hook/race mechanism! Rather, I use the oil can and place one or two drops into the holes at the bottom of that housing, the very place where the oil is supposed to go. Doing the work I do, I simply can't slop oil everywhere... . Indiscriminant oiling basically oils the thread; I don't need the hassle of oil stains on fabrics that can cost upwards of $100/yd..
My two present machines are self-oilers; there are only a couple of places where I must manually oil. I tend to oil them when I'm taking a day/two off, and then always run a sample until I'm satisfied that there is no residue on the threads.
Quote from: bobbin on February 22, 2012, 02:18:45 pm
I never simply drop oil indiscriminently into the hook/race mechanism!
I don't consider the way that I oil the bobbin case to be indiscriminent at all. I put a carefully aimed drop between the bobbin case and the hook race. Oil never even gets near the thread.
The guy in the video did appear to be oiling "willy nilly" over the top of the bobbin.
Watching that guy makes me realize how short my attention span has become. Mike's videos are detailed, but he doesn't waste the viewers time fiddling with a bobbin change. He should've had a full bobbin before the camera started rolling.
In Part 1, he wasted more than 30 seconds just unwrapping the vinyl from the plastic that it was shipped in.
So what wring with oils on rhe theead ive never had a problem and like in the vid i showed drom sailrite who sells a top thread oiler the lu ricated thread runs cooler and dose t fray fro the heat.