About a year ago, I posted this short video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub69I7GTJjI
I posted the link here, to demonstrate the Hartco clinch gun that I had just acquired. I never really intended for anyone else to see it. But I never removed it.
Today, I received a e-mail from someone that saw it. He had one of his own for me to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/user/inTylerable?email=comment_received
Why have I labored all these years with expensive industrial tools?
A roll of lamp cord is all you need.
sofadoc: I must have missed your youtube video, that is a great little tool, where can I get one?
Lamp cord? This guy should be embarrassed. It might tighten the springs up temporarily, but I cant imagine it lasting very long. IMHO this gives professional upholsters a bad image.
Quote from: mike802 on December 30, 2011, 03:15:31 pm
sofadoc: I must have missed your youtube video, that is a great little tool, where can I get one?
Here's a new one:
http://www.industrialnailers.com/hartcohr-65bah-furnitureapplicationslightclippingtool.aspx
I scored a used one on E-Bay for $75 last year. That clincher is also used for constructing lobster traps. It shoots these clips:
http://www.staplersandstaples.com/shopping/Products/Stanley-Bostitch-Hartco-HR-CLP-23-Clip__HR-CLP-23.aspx
They are similar to #3 edgewire clips, only smaller with a tighter crimp.
I got the 12 gauge paper wrapped wire from Hickory Springs. A 2000 ft roll was $100 including delivery.
That tool, along with the wire and clips has been a Godsend for repairing recliners, sofas, restaurant booths, etc. The wire is actually heavier than original equipped wire, so when I get done, it's better than new.
Keep checking E-bay. Every now and then, one comes up for auction. It's by far the best 75 bucks I ever spent.
I don't disagree that a guy using electrical wire is a total hack and does no service to upholsterers that really know what they're doing and care about doing it properly. But maybe there's a different way to look at it... maybe he is just some guy who had no money and a sagged out sofa that he needed to fix using what he had on hand... . (well, MAYBE).
The is no shortage of useful information available on the web, is there? I'm glad you were shown the error of your ways, Sofa..
I'm with Mike in that after about 2 or 3 months the lamp cord will stretch. Would love the guy to come on here and give his two cents worth.
And now that Sofa brought it up what is the best way to fix sagging No-Sags? I'll explain how an old timer taught me later.
Yeah, I got no problem with people doing their own "fix-it" jobs using whatever they have laying around. As long as they're happy, that's all that matters.
But if I "coathangered" my tailpipe, I wouldn't e-mail a mechanic and tell him to watch my video. ;D
We occasionally have some DIY'ers come on here fishing for compliments on their novice upholstery jobs. I never know what to say. I mean, considering they have no professional equipment or formal training, some of their work looks as good as can be expected. But I don't want to mislead them into thinking they're ready to hang out their own shingle.
Sadly, some of the same people that watch Mike's excellant wing chair "How-to" videos are probably gonna stumble across that guy's "lamp cord" repair technique.
Not every slack-jawed yokel out there in Youtube land knows the difference between a professional method, and one employed by Moe, Larry, and Curly.
Maybe I should rename this topic. Because I CAN'T see the light anymore...... I had to rob the cord off the lamp to fix my couch. :D
That is a clever idea. I don't know how long it would last either. Why not use a metal rod?
If you watch that guy's other videos, he shows on one of them how to fix your broken glass pipe. I'm sure some professional crack pipe fixers won't care to much for his DYI approach to this either.
gene
Sofa, how wide/long is the clip your using? Mod. # of gun?
I knew this thread would be a source of never ending chuckles. Thanks for the amusement, guys. :)
I feel the same way about those things advertised on TV that allow you to adjust the hems on your pants quickly and easily as you do about lampcord triage and coathangering tailpipes and calling the mechanic is search of praise. Lol.
Quote from: sofadoc on December 30, 2011, 06:03:30 pm
Yeah, I got no problem with people doing their own "fix-it" jobs using whatever they have laying around. As long as they're happy, that's all that matters.
But if I "coathangered" my tailpipe, I wouldn't e-mail a mechanic and tell him to watch my video. ;D
Maybe I should rename this topic. Because I CAN'T see the light anymore...... I had to rob the cord off the lamp to fix my couch. :D
when I was a teen I clothshangerss my tailpipe.
I even have cut open a tin ca. Fooled a hole up on the pipe and used hose clamps to hold the can on covering the hole
Recently a guy came up to me and asked if I had a coat hanger. He had locked his keys in his car. I said "Yes I do.", and I then proceeded to give him a plastic coat hanger. He did not find that as funny as I did.
gene
Quote from: fingers on December 31, 2011, 02:53:39 am
Sofa, how wide/long is the clip your using? Mod. # of gun?
The Hartco HR 24 clip is about 7/8" wide, compared to 1 1/4" on the #3 edgewire clips. Here it is:
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_DSC00250.jpg&hash=b7c4b69b76cbc6cc0fb12a85b6ab3128) (http://s775.photobucket.com/albums/yy33/sofadoc/?action=view¤t=DSC00250.jpg)
The gun is a Hartco model HR 65C:
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_DSC00253.jpg&hash=99beb075ba1ce94a6d6fe0f668bdc71d) (http://s775.photobucket.com/albums/yy33/sofadoc/?action=view¤t=DSC00253.jpg)
Most of the time, used ones end up selling for around $250 on E-Bay. I really got lucky when I found one last year with a starting bid of $75. No one else bid on it. New ones are $800. Rebuilt ones are around $400.
Thanks for taking the time to pass along the info. 75 bucks is a heck of a deal. Perhaps patience and diligence will pay off for me as well.
Bern
Quote from: gene on December 31, 2011, 06:34:06 am
Recently a guy came up to me and asked if I had a coat hanger. He had locked his keys in his car. I said "Yes I do.", and I then proceeded to give him a plastic coat hanger. He did not find that as funny as I did.
gene
that wouldn't have worked to well if he wants to hang his muffler either would it ;)
Good one Mike. LOL
Remember when we used to wrap meat and vegetables in tin foil and put it next to the exhaust manifold under the hood of our car so it would cook while we drove out to a park to go hiking or camping? There's a video I saw of a guy who invented a microwave oven that fits under the dash. He said, back in 2000, that within 5 years every car will have one. He was wrong, of course. But how many cars have TV screens in them today.
For those of us who grew up a bit on the poor side, do you remember sticking a wire coat hanger on the rabbit ears of our TV antenna to get better reception?
gene
Quote from: gene on January 01, 2012, 10:23:24 am
Good one Mike. LOL
do you remember sticking a wire coat hanger on the rabbit ears of our TV antenna to get better reception?
And a piece of wadded up tin foil that you could slide up and down the antenna for "Fine tuning".
Jeez, I remember when they used to play the Star Spangled Banner and turn off the entire TV station for the night!
right now i don't have pay TV, so i have piece of wire 30ft. long rigged up to an indoor antenna that i threw on the roof.
I traded my neighbor. I got a 40' tower, antenna, rotor, and amplifier. He got a dome shaped cover for his hay ring. (for his horses)
Dennis:
That lamp cord fix is just one of many ideas homeowners use to fix their furniture.
If you furniture guys were not so expensive people could afford to bring their couches and chairs to you to have them properly fixed.
Now us RV and marine guys and gals have much better rates which is why our customers can afford our work. :) :P 8) ;D
Poor consumers. Geeesshhh. :)
Chris
Quote from: gene on January 01, 2012, 10:23:24 am
For those of us who grew up a bit on the poor side, do you remember sticking a wire coat hanger on the rabbit ears of our TV antenna to get better reception?
gene
I remember we had a regular outdoor antennae on a pole but no rotor to turn it. If we wanted to watch a channel from a different area we had to go out with the slip joint pliers and turn the pole until someone inside yelled "IT'S CLEAR" No fooling, growing up I thought that's why they called the pliers "Channel Locks"
Kyle
Ive donew that gene with the tv, i never had one but they used to sell what was called a hotdogger it mounted on te muffler of a snowmobile motor and when you stoped to take a break you had hot dogs. ;D