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Title: What I saw today.
Post by: Grebo on June 16, 2011, 08:04:38 am
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Camera on full zoom, I know nothing about it but will ask about.

Suzi
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: kodydog on June 16, 2011, 11:45:05 am
Shiver me timbers she be lookin a worthy ship matey, Aye.
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on June 16, 2011, 11:47:53 am
That's awsome!
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: scottymc on June 16, 2011, 01:13:50 pm
Could be an old slave ship, or maybe cattle?
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: bobbin on June 16, 2011, 01:33:12 pm
It's a warship.  Look at all the ports for cannon. 

We need details, Grebo!
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: CKKC on June 16, 2011, 03:29:46 pm
It is a beautiful ship!   I tried to find out something about it but came up blank.  I hope Grebo will
go visit the ship and ask her name and heritage!!
I would love to know about it.
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: gene on June 16, 2011, 03:44:14 pm
Wow. Great pictures. Thanks for posting.

I love these old ships. I find it fascinating that they were sailed all around the world - totally dependent on the wind.

It was discovered in the 1600's that citrus fruit prevented scurvy among sailors. It wasn't until the 1800's that citrus fruit was provided to sailors - almost 200 years later. Why? It was cheaper to get new sailors than to provide citrus fruit.

gene
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: fragged8 on June 16, 2011, 03:53:12 pm
Wow Suzi thats wikid  :o

I love tall ships, a few years ago I was crew on the
Endeavour replica from Great Yarmouth to Boston. UK.

She was the ship Captain Cook sailed to Australia
and my wife is related to one of the first convicts deported
to Australia.

Rich
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: bobbin on June 16, 2011, 04:36:06 pm
It was the British navy that first ensured their ships carried adequate supplies of limes (they keep longer than other citrus varieties)... hence the moniker, "limey". 

If you ever want a fascinating read check "Longitude" by Dava Sobel (I think) out of the library.  A&E made a movie out of the story... the true story of a country clock maker's 50 yr. quest to earn the reward put up by Queen Anne to discover a practical way to calculate longitude.  Time is the key ingredient that permits accurate navigation when combine with latitude.  It's a great story and the original sea clocks are on exhibit at the maritime museum in Greenwich, England.  I plan to visit that museum when I'm in England this summer!!

No wonder the Brits ruled the seas; it started with Frobisher and Sir Francis Drake in mid 16th. century and continued unabated until the mid- 20th. century. 
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Mike8560 on June 16, 2011, 05:37:14 pm
Cool  reminds me of old Ironsides.  The uss constitution   The oldest commishioned ship in the us navy they turn her around each year in Boston harbor perhaps tou saw her rich when you crewed?
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: fragged8 on June 17, 2011, 09:05:20 am
hiya

When i said Boston Mike I meant Boston in the UK heheh only a weekend trip :-)

I have seen photos of the USS Constitution being moved though, i was amazed that she moves at all. Our most famous capital ship the HMS Victory is dry docked permanently as it's so old and valuable.

Bobbin, there is a TV series called Longitude which was aired in the UK a year or two ago, it was fascinating
http://www.amazon.com/Longitude-Jonathan-Coy/dp/B00004U2K1
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: bobbin on June 17, 2011, 12:09:53 pm
Rich, that's the one! we have it on DVD and every single person I've loaned it to has just loved it.  Fabulous story, and it's true that fact is stranger than fiction.  I can't wait to see the sea clocks at Greenwich. 

They spent a ton of money refurbishing the USS Constitution (I know a couple of guys who worked on it) and I have to say I was thoroughly irritated that after restoring it to sailing condition they never -uckin' sailed the damn thing!  Oh yeah, they hoisted the sails, but they never loosed the tow rope.  I know, I know... it's the oldest commissioned warship in the United States Navy, an "icon" and all that jazz, but what's the point in a complete restoration if it's never going to do what it was designed to do in the first place?  I'm not saying they should take it on a world tour, but for Pete's sake, how about actually saililng it on a picture perfect, fair weather day?  Bring the boys at the Maine Maritime Academy down and let them have at it.  It's not like they don't know how to handle a sailing ship...  if it goes to the bottom She'll at least die doing what she was designed to do. 
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Mike8560 on June 18, 2011, 09:23:17 am
Gee Rich you got a Boston uk too ? ;)
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: fragged8 on June 18, 2011, 03:43:57 pm
square riggers are impressive under sail but i could just imagine the Constitution
would be an awesome sight under her own power.

I can tell you it's a scary place to be up the mast though, and when they
do the displays with all the sailors in the rigging I'd pay a years wages
not to be the button boy.
The one who stands on the very tip of the mast  EEEEK!


Mike  hehe cheeky ..

Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Darren Henry on June 19, 2011, 08:19:01 am
O  :o M  :o G  :o

I think I want to touch myself inappropriately  :-[ The only thing sexier than a wooden ship is a tall ship. Near the very top of my "bucket list" is to make it to Halifax N.S for the tall ship convention they have every couple of years.

What strikes me about this one is her size and the relatively small amount of masts and sails. Our tall ships where all built for speed as they where competing for fish stocks on the Grand Banks and the first one in and back earned the most $$.
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: bobbin on June 19, 2011, 09:05:18 am
Should we start calling you Darren Wiener?  Lol.  Oh yeah... you need to send lewd picture of yourself for that... (spare us, willya?)

Warships were built to sustain the "kick" a full volley of cannon fire delivered in battle, they were never built for speed, stability was the name of their game.  I grew up not far from Boston, MA. and visits to the USS Constitution were part of school "field trips", but the best visit to her was with my Dad.  I was about 10 and it was pouring rain.  The ship was basically deserted save the docents, and we spent several hours exploring the ship and talking with the guides.  Because we were the only people below decks I was allowed to get into one of sailor's hammocks and learned that they slept with a cannonball to keep the hammock from swaying too much in rough seas.  It was so much fun, and I learned so much; I'll never forget that day.    Dad was Navy man and he was all over anything that had to do with history, throw in maritime history and it was a guaranteed great time. 
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: JuneC on June 19, 2011, 03:29:24 pm
Quote from: bobbin on June 19, 2011, 09:05:18 am
Warships were built to sustain the "kick" a full volley of cannon fire delivered in battle, they were never built for speed, stability was the name of their game.   


I never thought of that.  Though it makes perfect sense and I should have as the very first time I went hunting with my cousins as a young teenager, the kick of a small shotgun put me right on my back and they were all rolling on the ground laughing at me.  :-[  Oh well, live and learn.  It's an interesting perspective you have.  I'd love to tour the NE and the shipyards there.  So much history...

June
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: baileyuph on June 19, 2011, 06:07:42 pm
Suzi,

This is interesting stuff, are these restored ships?  There must be some very interesting history surrounding this type of vessel regardless of classification (restored or replica).

I can just see the rigors of ship applications of those days which must be somewhere over 200 years ago.  Those ship people were real men!   :)

Enjoyed the review.

Doyle
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Grebo on June 20, 2011, 01:36:59 am
OK Guys, here we go.
After asking about most people said, what ship  :'(

She is a full size replica of the Santisima Trinidad, normally a floating restaurant in Malaga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad_(1769)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/arcioles/148788562/

I couldn't find a decent video on u tube but here's one to give you a better view.

This is just sad.
http://www.raymaespectaculos.com/barco-discoteca-el-trinidad.html

Suzi
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Darren Henry on July 02, 2011, 11:29:38 am
Quotethe very first time I went hunting with my cousins as a young teenager, the kick of a small shotgun put me right on my back and they were all rolling on the ground laughing at me.


Laughin' with 'Ya gal; been there done that,got the tee shirt.

When I was about 10 or 12 I helped dad tear down an old barn to build our cottage. The guy who had been renting the farm left an ice cream pail of reloaded 12 gauge shells behind , and getting to blow them off at a tobacco can was my "pay". I spotted one that was a 3 " and told Dad we couldn't use it as his was a 2 3/4" chamber. He put a tape measure on it and assured me it was now a 2 3/4. Wrong. A 3" is only 2 3/4 when crimped shut. He was quite impressed that A) I stood in and took what I knew was coming and that B) as I was getting spun 180 ยบ I had the muzzle pointed in the air and the action open as we passed him. ( he was standing beside me ,of course, I was just a kid)

I never did get much bigger and entertained the entire regiment every year at small arms qualifications. While I did well with the C1 (semi auto personal weapon) the C2 ( full auto capable section weapon) in bursts would skid me off the firing line even prone. The Canadian army has some safety concerns about one soldier firing an automatic weapon from behind his colleges; so it was just assumed that when I was firing one of the DS (directing staff) would have to stand with one foot planted behind mine as an anchor. LOL
Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: PDQ on November 13, 2011, 03:57:51 pm
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Camera on full zoom, I know nothing about it but will ask about.

Suzi


SNAP!! :)
Took a few days off and visited Malaga last Feb. It took a while but we manged to find a way into the dockyard without being stopped.  :P

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Title: Re: What I saw today.
Post by: Grebo on November 14, 2011, 12:43:46 am
She has since been moved into the main marina & parked up outside the hotels.
I would imagine with all the effort it took to get her there that she will be here for a while yet.

Suzi