Hot mess chair

[byhammerandhand]

This is just unbelievable, and hope this was just done by Joe Garage and not some factory

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[brmax]

  I am confident that was done in a factory setting, and it's sad that it was discovered sold or built here.
A complete study of that construction should be more publicized for sure, if only to give someone a clear understanding of hidden, weak, yet ( planned ) structure.
I see and value the advances in adhesives but intermingled in a way to de value proper craftsmanship in a build burns me up.
What bothers me a lot is the amount of people it doesn't make a difference to.
I can see it now a bright, sharp dressed, easy to look at and well spoken public speaker for the company talking their #&%*

Good day and thanks, that will help keep us on the look out for crazy builds

Floyd

[MinUph]

Looks to me more like a deck builder decided to put a chair together rather than any factory.

[brmax]

Sometimes instructors are or decide that an abstract method of that days class has an ice breaker as this chair.
Very good opportunity to open up the methods by these laughs and such.  Sorry I still haven't read the article, I'm sure it has a great bearing.
Good days there everyone

[gene]

Some jute webbing, 8 way hand tied springs, burlap, horse hair, cotton, cambric on the bottom, etc., etc., and a nice $6.99 per yard fabric from JoAnn Fabrics and you are good to go.  ::)

gene

[byhammerandhand]

What has always amazed me is the number of dining chairs that are assembled (around the seat) with dowels, and have been for years and years.  A friend of mine says there are two types of doweled chairs -- those that are loose and those that will be loose.   A chair has more stress, and particularly more stress, pound per pound than most any other piece of furniture.   How many times do you slide a fully loaded bookcase a few feet or lean back on one edge?

Dowels are notoriously weak joints (technically, due to orthotropic properties of wood and minimized glue surface areas, but that's a lesson for another day).  As wood technologist, R. Bruce Hoadley says, "If good dowel joints aren't the oldest joints ever made, loose ones must be."

The only reasons I can think of that justify the practice is
* Easy to do with multi-head dowelers (i.e., cheap)
* Repairable, keeping people like me in business and the piece out of the trash bin
* Soft-fail, that is, they get loose over time and not just come crashing to the floor one day.

However, I think this chair would have been much better if instead of construction adhesive, they'd used Gorilla Glue.    Or not.

[SteveA]

This is the problem with 4 chairs that came in last week - the frames are completely pin nailed together


The pins toenailed from the sides

[Darren Henry]

The really sad part is that I have seen worse frames. At least they used fairly large pieces of real wood. Most of the frames that I have to work on are OSB tacked together with box staples and a piece of 1Xnot much for spring rails etc...Usually with a huge knot in the centre---right where it broke LOL!

[Rich]

It could have been worse, they could have used flake board instead of solid wood and then covered it all up with plastic laminate!
Rich

[byhammerandhand]

save!

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