Worked on a chair - built differently today.
The frame was all plywood, no hardwood.
The thing close to rungs in the framing was double layering of 3/4 in. plywood. Was very
strong and heavy, almost couldn't pick it up.
Tried to detect movement in the framing - could not.
The factory used an inordinate amount of staples, about 9/16 in., as a result very time consuming
to tear down.
Style? Well, don't know for sure, traditional classic? Not one of those, guess bulky traditional could apply. The only accent was the cording applied in the trimming.
Edge roll in the deck - plastic foam.
No cotton, burlap, or backrest springs.
This chair was made in the USA by a company called ROWE (in business since 1946).
Just thought a painted contrast of what upholstery is somewhat about today.
Doyle
style is one description
Over the years I have changed my opinion on plywood frames. Lately I've seen some sturdy furniture made with 1-1/4" plywood. Just finished this Ashley recliner and was very surprised how tight the 10 year old frame was.
https://goo.gl/photos/H6kacSvFSQ4TxiHYA
When it comes to style and tradition though, plywood constructed furniture can't compare to an all hardwood frame and the appealing grain markings in oak, hickory, maple or other decorative wood pieces for furniture produced in the United States.
Rose just picked this Martha Washington Chair for resale.
https://goo.gl/photos/StsZLrYcwMRXMVvY7
Yes I have to agree. Fully upholstered pieces are very good made out of plywood. The joinery done with CNC methods last a long time, as long as the plywood is good and thick enough. Needless to say exposed wood is much better suited for hardwood but the basic frame work is more stable out of plywood. The pieces I have built in the past few years are done mainly out of cabinet grade and I would expect them to outlast most frames. I do put some hardwood in place where needed. But the plywood is so stable it cant really be beat. As for filling the newer stuff is not as bad as the crap that came out at the turn of the trade when cost cutting was at its infancy. There is still a lot to be desired when it comes to decent fills but it does seem a little better than say 20 or so yrs ago.
I've tried logging in and out - can't shake this hack - any suggestions ?
I alerted the moderator several days ago however the issue continues
SA
Quote from: SteveA on August 13, 2017, 12:34:12 pm
I've tried logging in and out - can't shake this hack - any suggestions ?
I alerted the moderator several days ago however the issue continues
SA
Did you choose the "No Smileys" option in your profile?
Very nice Sofa D. I clicked "no smileys" in my Look And Layout Preferences. Now I no longer get the spam in my replay box. But they are still in My Community posts. Is that what you get?
Alright, I went back and checked out all the posts in Business and General. The only one who has the hack is Steve. Does this mean he is the only one who has not checked "no smileys"?
I checked no Smileys in lay out but it continues to post Sweepstakes. Although I changed the setting there wasn't a save button in lay out ?
SA
Nearly all my work is pre-delivery or warranty work on pieces less than 5 years old. I do see some real junk. Probably the worst (other than Ashley stuff, or stuff from the grocery store), was a sectional frame made from particle board. The owner was a fireman, so in good shape, but not obese. While sitting on it, it collapsed in the seat, ripped the fabric, popped the springs and tore loose from the back. A hot mess that was beyond repair. And stuff is usually stapled together with structural staples, often way too many and 10-20% that miss both layers entirely. One of my regular stores closed in the 2008 credit crunch recession, that was about the only stuff I saw that was not entirely made in Asia, even the top-end lines. I used to do a lot of casegoods pre-delivery for one retailer. You know the 8 piece bedroom set for $999, and generally 7 of the 8 pieces needed touch up (flaws from the factory, not always transit damage), often each piece in multiple places.
Quote from: SteveA on August 13, 2017, 05:23:24 pm
I checked no Smileys in lay out but it continues to post Sweepstakes. Although I changed the setting there wasn't a save button in lay out ?
SA
Do you not see a button at the bottom that says "Change profile "?
Doc - Sim sal a bim - oh divine + all seeing one from the other side. I think that worked - thanks be !
Lucky for us you are here or some where out there !
Back to business ..... ply wood is very strong - the week point is that screws can't grab well in the end grain therefore joinery will suffer although the board is rigid - the connection poor.
The last envelop .... " Hurry up" --- The name of a drink for us old guys containing 7up + prune juice
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Steve:
The hack has obviously attached itself to your profile pic as well as the smileys. You may have to delete your profile pic too.
Doc I went to profile and X Winner was my personalized picture - I couldn't delete it by highlighting ? I tried to deselect the button and the logo remained. I went back to the home page and I don't see it in the thread anymore. Don't know what I did but got my fingers crossed - thanks again Dennis
SA
So now that we have all that straight maybe we could get back to the subject of this post.
Wait a minute Paul - I'm now able to pay my bank statement on line from this site -
I'm an X Winner ! -
Plywood - joins well with dowels or biscuits and yellow glue - just ask that guy Norm in the plaid shirt -
SA
Surprised that they're using plywood. In general, it's going out of style because particleboard is cheaper. There is a lot of building going on around here. I see PB used for everything. I was surprised when I saw a larger senior housing complex go up with plywood.
I had a recliner a while back, a new one, and it was all particleboard. Nobody, the manufacturer nor the customer, expects much use. I don't really know how to feel about all of this -- it does serve it's purpose but it wasteful. We need to get better at incineration rather than have it clog the landfill for hundreds of years.
And I'd be interested in a photo of that plywood because I haven't seen that yet.
With the replacement cost of a recliner in the $ 400.00 range folks will toss it when it ages out and buy new.
I'm amused by the customers who call and ask if I can just recover the front seat,
They have also inquired if it could be done in a real leather to match the vinyl everywhere else. Also they ask if I can check the footrest mechanism that is catching something when it goes up and down.
I've never repaired a recliner for a private customer - the only repairs for me are with a manufacturer's issue and the store calls it in -
SA
Repairing Recliners made recently:
I do a lot of repairs; that include mechanism, wood framing, and upholstery.
If it requires a replacement mechanism, upholstery component(s) - the parts
can be obtained by/from manufacturer. Most wood repairs (if not all) I "saw" and
am usually able to made stronger than new.
From observation, people are bigger today and challenge the furniture a lot more,
often. For example with the footrest in the up position, they will exit and re-enter
the chair with it in that position - which often leads to warping the mechanism.
Regarding the price of these recliners (I work on), well not the expensive variety, but above $400. Say more like in excess of $600.
I don't mind working on them, it is all in a days work, but seeing the disregard
for furniture by these BIG people tells me it is time to move on to something other
than recliners because it doesn't look like consumers are going to change - weight
or habits.
Doyle