Picked this up today:
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_MOV05383.jpg&hash=241b8950c978ad5ea0ae403ec309e0d9) (http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy33/sofadoc/MOV05383.mp4)
Keystone lists this model for $550. I gave $100. It appears to be in near mint condition.
I don't do that much bulk cutting. So I'm not sure how and/or how much I'll use it.
Any suggestions?
Nice Toy. 8)
I would probably use it for cutting bias strips.
Or may be a pile of reinforcing shapes if it goes through tough stuff.
Will it do foam ?
Suzi
Kool toy!
How about cutting seasonal shapes of meat? Heart shaped steaks on Valentines day for the grill. Star shaped steaks for Christmas? etc., etc.
Now that's a suggestion!
gene
Quote from: Grebo on July 05, 2013, 01:35:00 am
I would probably use it for cutting bias strips.
Quote from: gene on July 05, 2013, 04:50:25 am
How about cutting seasonal shapes of meat? Heart shaped steaks on Valentines day for the grill. Star shaped steaks for Christmas?
I could be the only butcher anywhere who can say "WE ALWAYS CUT OUR MEAT ON THE BIAS". :D
Quote from: Grebo on July 05, 2013, 01:35:00 am
Will it do foam ?
I've heard of people using cutting machines like this one for foam. But I already have 2 Bosch foam cutters.
Wow, I would have never guessed it would cut a single layer of fabric so smoothly and without bunching it up.
What type of blade does it have ? Spinning disc ?
You furniture guys get to use all those cool tools. :(
Chris
Quote from: Mojo on July 05, 2013, 05:08:22 am
What type of blade does it have ? Spinning disc ?
Here is the blade (reciprocating):
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_DSC05385.jpg&hash=3f6fb27a4e926af06dca694b254e4412) (http://s775.photobucket.com/user/sofadoc/media/DSC05385.jpg.html)
Pretty amazing that it doesn't bunch the fabric up. Looks like one heck of a cutter.
You been prowling E-Bay again ? :)
Chris
Quote from: Mojo on July 05, 2013, 07:06:46 am
You been prowling E-Bay again ?
Are you kidding? If I had bought that off E-bay, they would've got a hunnert, Paypal would've got a hunnert, and FedEx would've got a hunnert. I'd be out at least 3 Benjamins. And the poor sap who sold it to me would be lucky to break even.
Actually, I get a lot of those "neat" tools from a travelling supply salesman, who brokers deals between me and other shops on his route that owe him money. Or they just give him the stuff to satisfy their debt. Then he offers it to me. Foam saws, steamers, sewing machines, button makers, various hand tools and supplies, etc. (I guess these people never heard of Craigslist). There are a lot of old-time upholsterers that ain't caught on to this new fangled internet.
Stack cutter. Nice score!
Dang....I've been looking for one of those. If you get tired of it, let me know, I'll buy it :O
Seriously, how accurate is it? I was just worried about buying one without trying it out and it not being what I needed. Instead I bought a 6 x 12 foot mat and I'm using a rotary cutter. Mat is well worth it. Makes that rotary cutter so much easier to use and keeps blade much sharper. But I can only do 4 layers at a time - If I could cut 20 with same accuracy.....hmmmm.....I am a thinking I might start looking again....You definitely got an awesome deal.
Quote from: sunshine_n_pc on July 21, 2013, 11:15:29 am
Seriously, how accurate is it?
Other than cutting welt strips, I seldom have a need to cut multiple layers at once. I've been playing around with it, but haven't really mastered the art of cutting several layers without some slippage. I guess I need some weights on the table to hold the fabric down?
Here I am cutting some welt strips. This is "tack-on" welt, so precision accuracy isn't necessary:
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_MOV05406.jpg&hash=72c61398d29f5a99447caee166f7d0a3) (http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy33/sofadoc/MOV05406.mp4)
Instead of pushing the cutter through the fabric, I just fold the material several times, and pull it through.
If anyone has any tips on how to best use it, I'm listening.
When I first saw this new toy I thought it was a foam saw but watching you cut welt I see the tubing part coming down close t the foot and see foam wouldnt get through that. So maybe these should be used on a vacuum table? That would hold the fabric in place.
Quote from: MinUph on July 21, 2013, 06:30:54 pm
When I first saw this new toy I thought it was a foam saw but watching you cut welt I see the tubing part coming down close t the foot and see foam wouldnt get through that.
The tubing part can be raised or lowered. It's actually an excellent foam cutter (up to 5"). But I already have 2 Bosch foam saws, so I don't really need it for that purpose.
Dennis what is the brand name and model number or any other information labeled on the cutter?
What did the previous owner use it for, ever hear?
Doyle
Quote from: DB on July 21, 2013, 07:06:39 pm
Dennis what is the brand name and model number or any other information labeled on the cutter?
What did the previous owner use it for, ever hear?
Here is the exact brand and model (mine is the -6 version)
http://westchestersewing.com/highlead/czm200/
I'm pretty sure that this is the previous owner:
http://www.razzlebaby.com/
It looks to be in mint condition.
Blades, sharpening belts, and other parts are interchangeable with Eastman brand cutters. It appears to be an Eastman clone.
That machine looks like new, hardly any use.
It is labeled as a cloth cutter, so does that lead to the thinking that a knife blade is for cloth and a spinning disc blade is the choice for vinyl? My little hand held cutter is a spinning disc.
There should be some thinking that if there is a tooth blade option for the machine, it would be a very good foam saw. It has options for longer blades, that would probably make it even more interesting should someone want to go in that direction.
I am not knowledgeable of this type of equipment to really appreciate how it is so effective with cloth, with only one blade. Anyone understand how the machine, with a single blade is so effective on cloth? Or does the sharp blade reciprocate with a support behind the blade? Reciprocates in a recessed support behind it?
So much to understand in this business.
Years ago, when starting in the business, the business owner had a cutter very similar and he used it to cut woven plastic roll goods. That was a material sort of like what is seen on fold up lawn chairs. It worked! He could cut a few layers at a time, maybe four or more?
Are we learning?
Doyle
Quote from: DB on July 23, 2013, 05:29:43 am
There should be some thinking that if there is a tooth blade option for the machine, it would be a very good foam saw.
It's actually the smoothest foam cutter I've ever seen. But since this one only has a 6" blade, you realistically only have enough clearance to cut foam up to 4" thick:
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi775.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy33%2Fsofadoc%2Fth_MOV05409.jpg&hash=9d320920f5a222a946549623947d71f3) (http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy33/sofadoc/MOV05409.mp4)
BTW The only reason that I'm pulling the foam back through the cutter, is because it's easier to do it that way while holding a camera.
Bobbin referred to it as a "stack cutter". So I assume it's designed for bulk cutting of stacked layers of fabric.
I really don't do much "stack cutting".
For $100, I'm glad I bought it. But at $550 for a new one, I don't think I'd get my money's worth out of it.
Your cutter looks like the cutters that my dad used in his garment factory. Those cutters would cut through ALOT of garment fabric. I kick myself now for not going to the auction when the factory closed. Dad said those cutters went for nothing. I always suspected they would have been perfect for cutting foam.
I'd love to have a Bosch, but I could never justify the price. I'd love to find a used one. I bought one of the EZ foam cutters from this website and it's okay. The blades go dull pretty quick. They are the serated blades like in a turkey knife.
I'd love a Bosch foam cutter, too, but don't cut enough to justify the price. I bought the Acu Cutter 500 from this site and I love it. Both blades move (like the Bosch). I lube 'em up with silicone spray and "get the job done". I keep it clean and lubed. LOVE IT!