Hi all ;D
I have just been asked for a 'ball park' ??? price for covers for a bayliner capri 1988
Something like this I guess, haven't seem it yet.
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Front bow cover separate & another one either from the screen backwards to the transom or over the screen.
Any ideas ?
Suzi
I could tell you what I would charge but it might not be applicable for your
location.
Bow cover - Cut & sew blanks, fit, sew and install - 3.5 to 4.0 hours
*Over window cockpit cover - 11 hours
*Top of windshield cockpit cover - 7 hours
Add for snap installation
Add all materials and support poles.
*There were a series of Capris that had a very narrow frame around the
windshield and required a special snap. It was a large plastic clip-on.
If this model has it I would recommend the over windshield cockpit. Because
of the direction of tension the top of windshield cockpit cover creates, those
snaps will constantly pull off. On some models there is a small crease in the
frame where the factory drilled and used pop rivet snaps for the stock convertible
top and sidecurtains. However, these are too close to the edge of the frame to
work effectively for a cockpit cover.
Brilliant, thanks soooo much :-*
Suzi
I'd say 8 yards of 60" at about $600 us
at my shop T the lake up north theis type of job was my bread and butter
In my prime I did up to 6 of theese a day
on a trailer outside my shop
Ok, seen it now. ;)
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So I talked him out of using the snaps on the frame. I was thinking right over the screen ;) thanks DBR, over the side windows & grommet / bungee to the white bit. One pole ? about midway. If I follow the side screens there will be a dip in front of the outboard motor. Couple of straps either side of the motor to pull it backwards & use the pops down in front of the screen.
Separate cover for the front with pole in middle. Use the pops fitted & maybe attach to the main cover at the base of the screen.
What do you recon ::)
Suzi
Suzie I'd pull it tight front to back down the centerline first then pull it side to side so you won't be plow and puddling water at the rear. One poleis enough I lut the
slightly to the rear of center as the water will pudle in the rear
normal snaps is what I would use
Thanks Mike, so to pull it tight on the centre line I need to fix it on the leading edge of the outboard well. Then pull it upwards towards the corners, is that right ?
Suzi
This is one of those fun jobs. I've done plenty of them as we had a Bayliner
dealer 10 minutes from us. If you pull the centerline front to back first it will
dip below the windshield side wings. Notice how the sides are flat horizontal
from the front corners to the turn down. You need to start center front then
center the blanks side to side at the turn down corner of the side wings. It's
a little frustrating because you have to go back and forth to get right then
sight the centerline to the stern.
For the outboard well I always mark straight up to the blanks from the corners
of the well and measure for an inside skirt. It gives a very clean appearance.
I forgot about the limited space at the base of the windscreen which limits the
ability to install separate fasteners for the bow cover and cockpit cover. You will
probably have to use double length common sense fasteners. However, we used
to talk the customer into a one-piece bow/cockpit cover which eliminates the need
to add fasteners there. Only drawback is some people use the bow cover to block
the wind on cooler days and the one-piece doesn't offer that option.
Don't know about grommets and bungee on the sides. You need to keep any
drilling 3/4" to 1" below where the window meets the hull. These older Bayliners
are pretty thin below that point and you will find your screws will just spin and
not grip. I always just used standard Dot snaps.
You've got a motor well so you really can't lull the center
On the bow cover limited space what I would do was install gypsy studs on the bow cover then the cockpit cover could snap to the top ot itand rain would not get I. The bow under the cover after running Down The window
Quote from: Mike8560 on April 29, 2011, 04:03:54 pm
You've got a motor well so you really can't lull the center
On the bow cover limited space what I would do was install gypsy studs on the bow cover then the cockpit cover could snap to the top ot itand rain would not get I. The bow under the cover after running Down The window
Not to be contrary;
Sure you can lull the center. I've done it about 50 times. Tension to the transom
is provided by going to the rear outside corners and the rear corner to either side
of the motor. With the skirt sewn in it actually provides resistance against the
pole tension. For extra measure sew a strap w/buckle on the center seam and
wrap around the bracket/steering cylinder for the motor.
Re the gypsy studs, my experience has always been the two covers will stay
fastened together and the bow cover will release from the snaps. Especially
if they are the factory style rivet on which don't hold as well as the screw on
style dot snap.
Ya that happens dbr if so a locking fastnet on the bow and cockpit will stop it in the
right spots
Down here in Florida I don't see covers like that Last one a cockpit cocver o did was on a 30 foot regal express most are center consoles or lardfe express and rhenexpress generwly just have windows up No cockpit cover
the very first boat i covered in school was like that
center seamed and patterned with a blanket, darts along the
top of the screen edge following the curve.
Ouch damit pins will be invaluable .
the bow cover had xtream seal sewn around the edge
a centre snap installed on the wrong side of the opening window lower edge
to stop the edge rising, or falling with water on it.
2 common sense either side of the door and a tent pole in the bow
oh yes and colour matching snaps ..
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Rich
I have owned this very same year boat for 14 years. Have it for sale right now. The cover on it is 13 years old made from Top Gun. The boat sits out 24-7 and the cover is faded but still in great shape. I also did the interior about 5 years ago and took out the horrible pink and aqua. The blue and yellow looks much better.
I made the cover two piece in front. The windshield base has gypsy studs so I can put the top cover over the bow for storage and reverse it for towing. That way the water runs off during storage and the wind flows over it in transport. Roy.
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The new inferior looks great roy.
I did a cover on a simmilar capri on e the owner thought he could use it for a winter cover and with afoot of snow the thin frames they had flexed and the glass broke.
Ok guys, I have it in the shop ! Well next doors garage actually ;D
My first job under cover ::)
What this space ???
Suzi
Cool
I usedto make
alot
of thoose covers the cockpit cover over the window where it's not a curved window I did them with 6 dartsover the window 2 at the point of the front center opening glass 2 at the corners of the shield and 2 at the point on the side where it's kinda goese from flatins to more angled your gona need a dart there also.
Me I used gypsy snaps onthe bow a d overlaps the two to prevent water though you need a fewocki g fastner o. Tbe bow as it will want to unsnapped witht e cockpit snaped to it.
Sorry Guys forgot to report back :-[
OK, I took all the advise. And did my own thing :P
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As it has a ski pole, I thought it was a bit daft to give them another pole to loose.
The boat is now being left afloat & exited from the rear. I did a test run putting it all on front to back & it seems ok. Time will tell if the ski pole makes a good enough run off angle.
I though I would be clever & make the sides separate :-X should have done the one piece idea I think, oh well good practice for the next one ;D
Gypsies on the front between the two covers & front cover snapped on the back of the centre screen ( bases already there) Used all the old pop bases, replaced a few & added one or two here & there. Two short straps inboard by the engine for adjustable tension.
Skirt around the o/board well looks cool. Nice touch.
Suzi
Looks great Suzi. Clever idea on the ski pole. :)
Chris
Is that a antenna laying sideways a Ross the bow suzi?
Looks good have you e er done a overlap at the vow like that. The bow cover can pull the cockpit cover snap offi put a few locking snaps also to hold it.
What the hecp is that webbing running from the ski pole to the lower unit for he can't be using it to hold the motor up the leverage would be no good to do that
Ah Suzy, thats terrible. That beautiful canvas work is going to keep that Bayliner from an early grave. Where it belongs.
kiss!kiss! Mike8560
hey hey
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not all were bad peppy
Quote from: Peppy on June 20, 2011, 07:24:43 pm
Ah Suzy, thats terrible. That beautiful canvas work is going to keep that Bayliner from an early grave. Where it belongs.
kiss!kiss! Mike8560
Couldn't agree more, common name for them in the UK ( south coast Richard) is bin liners. :D It's been resurrected once already. Sat in a garden for years uncovered, the floor is rotten & the seats are evil. " but it's just for fishing ! "
Mike it's the guys first boat, he has a lot to learn. Yes it has two antennas, no idea what for.
Suzi
Those uea models used to have the cheesiest weak windshield frames. Lean on it and it would wiggle a d they had stupid plastic clips o. The frame for the top and windows
and xmass folded
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