Im looking at my brothers 82 four winns power boat. The seats are tri color with two rows of welt separating the colors. Each color has its own color welt. How is this done. everything I found for double welt dealt with a different scenario. Upon opening a seat up I see that there are 6 layers 2 for each welt and one of each color. To make it even better theres a piece of scrim foam sewn down the center piece of fabric that is in the same seam. Thanks,
Steve
Ok after searching the archives I saw some saying to use a single welt foot and stack them underneath. I gave that a try with a seam to hold everything in alignment, The botttom welt would walk away and be left standing out. The machine made a clunking noise like it was driving the center presser foot into one of the outer ones also. Im thinkin they must have had a machine with a groove in the bed? Further complicating things there are spots where another piece of welt intersects and is sewn in to the seam dieing inside at the selvage edge. Being unable to line them up on a straight piece has me doubtful about holding all these layers going around corners. Anybody?
Here, try This: Two Color Double Welt (http://www.upholsteryresource.com/node/115)
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winterssewing.com%2Fdrupal%2Fgallery2%2Fd%2F1093-1%2FTwoColorDoubleWelt.JPG&hash=ccb3b0cdfb75c5ab1dcb3cd2e11cbd8d) (http://www.upholsteryresource.com/node/115)
Stephen
Impressive
Excellent, now I have to figure how to incorporate two colors of fabric sewn to the welt, and scrim foam. Heading to table to try it out.
dont know if I posted the pic right but this is what Im trying to reproduce
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Quote from: Stephen on November 17, 2010, 10:47:11 am
Here, try This: Two Color Double Welt (http://www.upholsteryresource.com/node/115)
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winterssewing.com%2Fdrupal%2Fgallery2%2Fd%2F1093-1%2FTwoColorDoubleWelt.JPG&hash=ccb3b0cdfb75c5ab1dcb3cd2e11cbd8d) (http://www.upholsteryresource.com/node/115)
Stephen
I found that hard to follow myself, and sewing on top of the piping is not the way I would go about it.
QuoteI found that hard to follow myself, and sewing on top of the piping is not the way I would go about it.
Ooops, my mistake, I didn't read the original post closely enough. You are right, this probably wouldn't work in Steve's case. This type of trim is made to have the raw edges under the welt, to be used like regular double welt, gimp, or other top applied trim.
Stephen
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Sew your welting to your facing on both pieces. I do not sew close to the welt cord, more close to the edges. This way when you sew both together it will make it easier to sew.
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Next, sew both pieces together. Then trim of the extra material. I trim between the first and second stitch.
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The finished product.
Hope this helps. Scott
i cant help you how to do 2 core color piping
my last boat though i redid the bridge seating that had 2 colors but only one had polycore inside the darker piping had no core to make it esy i redid it the same way
heres how it came out
i have seen it done with poly welt two color like this though
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Scott, what kind of foot do you use? A zip foot? I'm guessing that 2 beads of polycore welting, when stacked for that final seam, makes it REALLY hard to get close to the welt core. Either that, or one slips away and you have an uneven welt. Or are you using some other core?
June
I use a zipper foot on the outside and the center foot that the needle goes through is for welting. Like I said before, the first time I sew the welt to the face I have the welt foot close to the outside edge of the piece. This allows the material around the cording to be loose. Then when you sew the two faces with the welt together on top of one another, you need to take it slow and make sure your right edges like in picture two are equal. Sew as close as you can to the welting. Takes a little practice, but works well.
I also have done it like Mike said, using one welt cord and a piece of material folded in half. It has a good look also.
I wanted to revisit this topic because this is what Im working on now.
Mike, you say you've done this by leaving the core out of the second piece of welt. When I try this, the piece gets creased by the presser foot, and it just doesn't look right. Any suggestions on how to avoid this?
Here's a way to do the two-color welt. Cut your welt material and lay the two colors face to face. Sew them together down the middle. Crease them into an "X" shape. Insert the welt cord into one of the colors, and sew it as usual. Sew the other welt in the same manner. Place the proper color welt on the first piece of material and sew it on as you normally would. Then, place the other color welt on the remaining material and sew it in place. Cut off the excess selvege on the seam, and you're set to go. I tried to upload a picture for clarification, but it would'nt go. Send me an Email and I may be able to send it that way. Good luck.
Danny D.
Danny, had to read it 3 times but now it makes perfect sense and sounds like a great way to sew two pieces of material together using 2 color double welt. Cool! I'll try it. You do this all with a single welt foot?
I have to try that also! Thanks
Yes!!! You're brilliant, Danny! :) Thank you!
Yes, it's all done with a single welt foot. I first did this a couple of weeks ago on a Century boat. All the covers had the double color double welt, and the owner wanted to keep it that way. It was confusing at first until I took one of the covers apart, then it was plain as day and just as easy to do. It really gives a trick look to any cover you put it on, a dress-up that you don't see every day. Hope it all turns out good for you.
Danny D.
Here's a couple of photos of what I was describing. Hope they come through.
Danny D.http://i4http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Danny457/Century%20Boat%20cushions/th_DSC00670.jpg0.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Danny457/Century%20Boat%20cushions/th_DSC00673.jpg
Well, guess that didn't work so well. Let's try that again.
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http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e213/Danny457/Century%20Boat%20cushions/th_DSC00670.jpg
Maybe this link will click bigger.
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8) I am having a go as well (https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh158%2Fgrebo2%2Femocions%2Fthumbup.gif&hash=4a22aaa958ff7d1df75fbc129b0fa410)
Suzi
Looks good Danny. Is that a Ferrari logo in the middle?
Dang blasted computers.
No, it's not Ferrari, just the logo that Century used on their boats. They are no longer in business, and all the parts and sundry items they had left over got crushed and trashed. What a loss.
Danny D.
Just ringing up this old thread when i researched this hos to that stephen indid some this adternoon. Was easy and came out great
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/a002b830.jpg