HI ALL,
I have a customer that wants me to do a custom interior on a speed boat for a show he is doing to show off his painting skills. Anyway, he is wanting some exotic vinyls, Ostrich, Snakeskin. Something different anyway. Are there any out there that is marine grade? I am not sure, I have went though my books. ANY IDEAS??
Thanks Mark ::) 8) ;D :D ;) :)
I know nothing about the "exotics" available in vinyl. But I can't wait to see what others suggest... I love the automotive stuff I see here... .
If any of that is available, it probably is for the clothing industry.
No samples in my vinyl books either.
But, stay tuned, if the market should justify milling it out if will come.
I remember the psychodelic vinyl that nagahyde milled out several years ago. It looked sharp.but apparently the market was spotty.
Oh heck, just order about 25 rolls and speculate. ;)
Doyle
Holler at Mike he might know of something. I know of nothing like that, but back in the 60's they used vinyl as tandue covers and treated them so anything is possible.
Oh good heavens. It's everywhere. You can get about anything you want in any material you want. I prefer using vinyl vs. embossed leather vs. using real hide, mainly because of price, durability and ability to match up a replacement.
Charlotte Fabrics has absolutely gorgeous faux Ostrich (male pattern). Everyone carries at least a single brand or exotic, but a lot of them are too flat and cheap looking to be nice on a seat. The CF stuff is very very textured. The bumps stick right out. The chopper seat used real leather on the outers and faux Ostrich on the center. The two tier seat had Pearl Ostrich (faux) in the center and (if I remember right) an Ultraleather line of heavy grain snake for the outer. That's the material that went in Miranda Lambert's motorcoach a few years ago. Very very heavy grain and looks great. On the flipside, the bench seat uses the same Pearl Ostrich and a smooth grain snake for the outers. Gives a totally different, more upscale look. That seat is going in an 08 Chevy Malibu.
Along with exotic skins, there are also a variety of other types of exotics. The last bike seat uses Carbon Fiber vinyl mixed with the Ostrich. It made for a nice change up on the texture.
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I've found when using embossed leather with exotic patterns, that when stretched the pattern tends to wear prematurely or disappear during assembly, plus it's a LOT more expensive. We also have used true Caymen hide on a couple hot rod seats and a couple bike seats. It's really expensive, and about the only plus is the raised center spine is cool. But the whole hide is only about three feet long and a couple feet wide, and you don't get a lot of useable material.
Call Miami, Wholesale USA, Coast to Coast Leather, Charlotte Fabrics, or just about anyone else, and ask for their sample cards. New ones are coming out every day, too, it seems.
hiya
I love the silver flames on the bike seat, are they sewn on top of everything else ? or patterned out.
regards
Rich
Amazing! those seats are so cool.
Hi All,
I do have vinyl samples of the stuff they do not say marine grade. They say suitable for all commercial, residential, and automotive applications.Nothing about marine. So I am not sure. All my marine sample,say so. Any other help would be great.
Anyone use Larry Dennis?
Mark
If you will, go to the link, under marine vinyl's click on the Studio card. Very nice vinyl, has ostrich, at the bottom of the page has others as well.
http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=customer&file=customer/micorp2/customerpages/samples.htm
Hey Stitch
1. Your seats look great I like your inlay, or overlay. How many hours involved.
2. How does the FAUX hides hold up. haven't used any myself but I'm working on some plans in the back of my head.
stitcher_guy
The seats look great! I ride a Road King and am currently on a Corbin seat. I like the firm ride of a Corbin. I was looking around on your site and saw that you were building the seats with two layers of foam. I've seen the multicolored foam, but noticed that you had another layer over top of that.
What you have looks like a firm seat base. What is the foam you're using and where are you getting it?
Some of the people on this site should consider making some "How To" videos! ;)
Nice work!
I recently got a sample book (well, maybe not that recent, but in the last 12 months or so) from J. Ennis Fabrics. my-oh-my-oh-my
Snakeskin, ostrich, wood, pigskin, cowskin.....they had just about every vinyl-hide but cockroach. Not cheap tho, I seem to recall prices in the $100/yard range.
NUVTEX just came out recently with some really cool new lines
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I just finished this seat lastnight.
Stitcher
Quote from: stitcher on September 25, 2009, 06:48:41 am
NUVTEX just came out recently with some really cool new lines
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I just finished this seat lastnight.
Stitcher
Stitcher,
Is that real leather or vinyl? Looks GREAT, simple but very sharp! I think I could carve out a niche in just motorcycles alone around here. Can you tell me what kind of foam you use? I like a firm seat. Also, Do you cover the foam in some kind of plastic before putting the cover on it?
Stitcher,
Where are you getting that line from?
The cover is made of NUVTEX VINYL and I purchased it from Three Rivers Supply, Co. Homestead, PA 412.462.3900
The foam I use on Chopper seats is from Smooth-On Corp. http://www.smooth-on.com/Rigid-and-Flexible/c10_1121/index.html (http://www.smooth-on.com/Rigid-and-Flexible/c10_1121/index.html) I use a 2 part chemical mix either 5lb or 10lb density. I pour the foam over the pan and start carving away. It is more work but it works Great!
And yes I use a plastic slipping agent over the foam to slide the cover on, on most seats.
Stitcher ;)
I noticed they had 4 different kinds of expansion foam and each one was available in 3, 5, 10 and 25 pound densities. Which one of these do you use?
•FlexFoam-iT!® III - 1A:2B by volume - approx. 18X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® V - 1A:1B by volume - approx. 10X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® X - 1A:1B by volume - approx. 6X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® 25 - 1A:2B by weight - approx. 2X expansion
Also, what do you use to shape it? Thanks!
Quote from: stitcher on September 26, 2009, 04:15:20 pm
The cover is made of NUVTEX VINYL and I purchased it from Three Rivers Supply, Co. Homestead, PA 412.462.3900
The foam I use on Chopper seats is from Smooth-On Corp. http://www.smooth-on.com/Rigid-and-Flexible/c10_1121/index.html (http://www.smooth-on.com/Rigid-and-Flexible/c10_1121/index.html) I use a 2 part chemical mix either 5lb or 10lb density. I pour the foam over the pan and start carving away. It is more work but it works Great!
And yes I use a plastic slipping agent over the foam to slide the cover on, on most seats.
Stitcher ;)
Hey Stitcher,
Great site! That Smooth-On site is really interesting. I watched one of their videos of someone duplicating a bust. I could see that stuff being used in a lot of interesting ways.
I noticed they had 4 different kinds of expansion foam and each one was available in 3, 5, 10 and 25 pound densities. Which one of these do you use?
•FlexFoam-iT!® III - 1A:2B by volume - approx. 18X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® V - 1A:1B by volume - approx. 10X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® X - 1A:1B by volume - approx. 6X expansion
•FlexFoam-iT!® 25 - 1A:2B by weight - approx. 2X expansion
Also, what do you use to shape it, and what is plastic slipping agent ? Thanks!
Just had some new exotic, animal-inspired vinyls come across my desk:
Antigua and Serengeti from Boltaflex by Omnova. Antigua has a crocodile-embossed pattern and Serengeti is ostrich-embossed. Both are marine-grade. They're made with environmentally-conscious materials too, if that adds any value for your customer. http://www.omnova.com/products/contractUpholstery/new_designs.aspx.
Also, the Celebrity line from Silver State has lots of snakeskin patterns, including rattler and scorpion! Kinda neat. They say it's "moisture and mildew repellent," but I'm not sure if it would be suitable for marine use. http://www.silverstatefabrics.com/index.php?p_matter=items&p_item_collection=Celebrity%20-%20Faux%20Leather
Maybe that helps...
Kelly Frush
I use the V and X pound densities
Cool Thanks Kelly I will have to check them out
Stitcher
Nuvtex vinyl's. They get the job done. Nice working vinyl too. Stitcher that seat turned out great. We offer several Nuvtex vinyl's.
Specialty & Prints
http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=customer&file=customer/micorp/customerpages/samples.htm
Foams for bike seats. Ask for a sample of the V400 or V625. Great base foams.
V400>FOAM, AQUA CELL V400 1" X 48" X 64"
V40034>FOAM, AQUA CELL V400 3/4" X 48" X 64"
V625>FOAM, AQUA CELL V625 1" X 42" X 56"
Quote from: Miami Mike on September 28, 2009, 03:52:18 pm
Nuvtex vinyl's. They get the job done. Nice working vinyl too. Stitcher that seat turned out great.
We have that Nuvtex as well, www.nuvtex.com (http://www.nuvtex.com). It will perform at marine grade applications nicely.