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Title: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: stickandtin on September 19, 2015, 10:17:37 am
Upholstering a seat cushion and back cushion on an old metal bench. Back cushion has a cover piece on backside that was made up of material sewn on a piece of cardboard that measures 9" x 40". That piece was then attached by means of 1/2" twist nails to the back of the back cushion plywood. Does anyone know a source for that type of cardboard. It is not corrugated. All I have been able to find is narrow cardboard strips, chipboard and automotive type backer board. Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: Darren Henry on September 20, 2015, 06:00:44 am
Welcome to the board Stick. Would that auto backer board not do the trick if you laminated enough layers of it to get your thickness? I've seen it as thick as 1/8". Sorry I can't help you with a source---I never use the stuff and I'm in south central Canada.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: gene on September 20, 2015, 07:38:10 am
Use calipers to measure the thickness of the board.

Cardboard is sometimes called chipboard.

Check out paper supply businesses in your town - especially those that supply paper packaging materials B2B.

They may not want to bother with you because your order is too small, one sheet, but they also may give you a sheet for a couple of bucks that is big enough that you can cut to size.

Tell them you're looking for one sheet of chipboard at least 9" x 40" x 1/4" (whatever the thickness is). And you will take whatever size they have in stock that you could cut down.

Good luck.

gene







Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: kodydog on September 20, 2015, 05:12:22 pm
Don't know if this will help.
http://www.gencosupplies.com/product_catalog.cfm?cid=118
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: stickandtin on September 21, 2015, 05:38:57 am
Thanks for the leads and advice. One of my problems is I'm new and don't know all the terminology. Actually my wife is learning to do upholstery on the side. I'm helping her by doing the leg work and research. I have a vintage trailer restoration business and eventually she will be doing the upholstery and curtains for the trailers I restore. Looked at Home Depot, Lowe's, hardware stores, fabric stores for a suitable cardboard....no luck. Not sure what chipboard or the other material mentioned is. Will a Juki 1541S sew through it and marine vinyl? Thanks again.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: scott_san_diego on September 21, 2015, 07:28:06 am
You might try Keyston Brothers.  They carry chip board. 
You might also try using 1/8" - 1/4" Luan plywood from Home Depot.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: MinUph on September 21, 2015, 01:12:10 pm
Quote from: stickandtin on September 21, 2015, 05:38:57 am
Will a Juki 1541S sew through it and marine vinyl? Thanks again.


It should with a larger needle than normal vinyl sewing. Probably a 180 needle size should work. The machine will sew it with no problem.
If I remember correctly chipboard is just hardened cardboard. It is the thickness you need and it is used for car door panels etc.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: stickandtin on September 21, 2015, 04:49:19 pm
Thanks Paul. I checked the needle size in the Juki and it's a 125. Will this 1541S take a 180 needle?
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: MinUph on September 21, 2015, 06:44:17 pm
Sure it will. 135-17 is the needle type your machine uses. There are a couple of ways to list needle size I use 120-135-140-160-180. Some manufacturers list them in another way. Call ans ask for a 135-17 needle that is equivalent to a 180, get some 160s also in case the 180s are too large. The smaller the better. But I think you will break the 125s pretty easily.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: sofadoc on September 21, 2015, 06:45:47 pm
 A 125 is a 20 gauge needle. This may be a little flimsy for sewing through really heavy cardboard.

I use a 20 gauge when I sew the cardboard panel on the old La-Z-Boys. Never had any trouble.

The heaviest needle that I keep in stock is a 160 (23 gauge). I've never found anything that a 23 wouldn't sew through.

Your machine will sew with a needle up to 25/190.

Are you just sewing around the perimeter?
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: stickandtin on September 22, 2015, 07:26:47 pm
Sofadoc, yes just sewing around perimeter. Problem is when wife gets to a rounded corner. That's when the needle broke....going around the corner. I've just learned that different sized needles take different size thread. Been using #69 thread with the #20 needle. According to chart, I should be using #92.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: stickandtin on September 22, 2015, 07:32:53 pm
Thanks to everyone for taking time to help a couple of rookies.
Title: Re: Need source for sheets of cardboard
Post by: sofadoc on September 22, 2015, 07:38:24 pm
I normally sew most furniture fabrics with a 20 gauge needle and #69 thread. I don't care what any chart says. I've even sewed #138 thread with the same 20 gauge needle.

Instead of sewing around the perimeter of a heavy cardboard, could you cut a thin piece of plywood or paneling and just glue the vinyl on? Or staple it on with some very short staples?