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Title: Compressor Issues
Post by: JuneC on December 26, 2013, 07:29:09 pm
I think my faithful DeWalt may be done for.  It starts and the piston pumps slowly - maybe 1 stroke every second - then builds speed till it sounds normal, then after 5 or so seconds it trips the on-board breaker.  I doubt it's economically repairable.  I'd guess the SoFla humidity has probably deteriorated the piston seals/cylinder to a point that fixing just doesn't make sense.  So.... anyone have any favorites they'd recommend for a replacement?  I'd like something semi-portable (less than 50 pounds). 

June
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: SteveA on December 27, 2013, 04:19:46 am
June
If you liked the Dewalt stay with it I guess ?  3 years ago I bought a sears craftsman for on site work so I wouldn't have to depend on an electric stapler. .  1 horse power - under $ 100.00 on sale and it works great - no complaints -

SA
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: byhammerandhand on December 27, 2013, 05:43:48 am
I have a Maxus, made by Campbell-Hausfeld.   It's got aluminum tanks so the whole thing weighs 23 lb.   In addition, no rusty water in the tank.   Draining it comes out crystal clear.


I still don't understand how I can get 100 lb of air and it still only weighs 23 lb., though. :-)

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I see from Home Depot's web site, they no longer carry it.   That means either you're out of luck, or you might find one on sale there.  Sorry to hear it if C-H discontinued mfr.

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Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Mike on December 27, 2013, 05:51:20 am
Ive had a kobalt unit i bought at lowes a cew years ago. I love it its like and portable although i only took it one on a bost to install a headliner. It easily hangs on the wall giving easy access to the drain  and it wasnt and arm n  leg
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Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: jojo on December 27, 2013, 07:10:10 am
I also vote for the Craftsman under $100 jobber. Mine is about 10 years old and just won't die.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-3-gallon-horizontal-air-compressor-with-hose/p-00915310000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

That yellow curly hose that comes with it sucks though, so don't use it.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Darren Henry on December 27, 2013, 09:51:57 am
I have a little compressor much like the Craftsman. It's  nice for all the "on site" work I do, but I wouldn't want to rely on it all the time. I've got some tools that are complete air hogs (critter gun, sander for foam, air hammer for stripping) that work the 5 HP 8-10 Gal. oiled compressor pretty hard. My Campbell Hausfeld was the same size but oil less like most of the small ones. I had to install a rebuild kit every couple of years because it cycled too often. It was only like 30 bucks and 1/2 hour but I had to run on scuba tanks or one of my portables until I could get the kit out here from Winnipeg .

When was the last time you changed the oil in your compressor? I would drain it and stir the used oil with a magnet. Unless it came out with a beard of iron filings on it I'd rebuild the old Dewalt and put the money I saved into a cheap jobber for outside work. They are pretty basic to work on and  I've seen your tool crib---should be a two six-pack overhaul LOL
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: gene on December 27, 2013, 03:28:20 pm
Most compressors are self lubricating.

Is yours self lubricating? Check the oil level is not.

If it is self lubricating, check the owners manual and see if there is a way to add lubrication. This may be a slick way to solve your problem.

I've got an over sized Craftsman, stand up with wheels on it, that my family bought me for my birthday thinking I would love it. I appreciate the thought but I did not need something that big.

gene
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: JuneC on December 27, 2013, 07:44:31 pm
The problem with replacing the compressor is that it's 9 years old.  DeWalt had just purchased Emglo some time prior but the Emglo design and components were still in the supply chain and it's been a great machine.  Current DeWalts get mixed reviews as it's now made in China with questionable quality control.  The same is probably true of many older compressors.  It was a double-stack with oil so maybe some disassembly with a good cleaning and lube job would fix it up.  No clue.  Apparently the windings and solenoids/capacitors/whatever still work since it starts, runs and does compress air.  I think it's just getting too much resistance when pumping.  The switches and valves are still great. 

The CH looks interesting, Keith.  They're an old client of mine and I have a lot of respect for their products.  I see a few on eBay are still for sale, but none in regular channels since it's discontinued.  I'm liking the fact that it's so light.  Mine weighs about 60 pounds so I keep it on a Harbor Freight dolly for rolling around the shop, but I still have to put it in the truck from time to time and it's a beast, as I'm short and have to lift it above waist level to load. 

Gene, maybe an oil change will help.  I'm clueless about how these things work (I didn't even know if it used some sort of impeller system or piston) but from what I've read now, I gather it's a piston.  I'll disassemble and see what's going on in there. 

June
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: byhammerandhand on December 28, 2013, 04:48:07 pm
I believe Senco also makes a lightweight machine.  Both Sencp and Campbelll-Hausfeld are here in town,. one on the NE side and one on the NW.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Mike on December 28, 2013, 05:15:19 pm
ive got a CH came from my old shop and I put it in the garage at my home. the switch that turns off the motor whe it get up to preasure stopped working it just runs on so it ok for filling tires ect but for the shop it had to go
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: MinUph on December 28, 2013, 05:21:51 pm
I have an old 1 hp craftsman for working and a PC portable. The portable came with 2 nailers and was a good deal at HD I believe. I'm not sure how Craftsman compressors are now but mine is going on 40 yrs old, runs on 110 or 220 and it likes 220 much better. You can't beat an oil filled compressor. They run smoother, quieter, and last longer.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: baileyuph on December 28, 2013, 06:47:33 pm
My experience and understanding about compressors s very close to Paul's.  The oil type sure are a lot quieter.  I have both and have used the small portables - which sure can be noisy and run a greater amount more.

Doyle
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Darren Henry on December 29, 2013, 09:18:15 am
Ditto on the oil filled being the better machine for continuous/extended duty.

Quotemine is going on 40 yrs old, runs on 110 or 220 and it likes 220 much better.


I've seen many electric motors where can re-configure the windings to for either 110 or 220---I've never seen one that you can plug into either. How does that work?

Quotethe switch that turns off the motor whe it get up to preasure stopped working


I put a new pressure switch on our compressor last year. It was around $30 after taxes.

June; If you can post a pic of your compressor, I should be able to help you out. I've always been 200 Km away from parts/service so have always done our maintenance.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: MinUph on December 29, 2013, 12:01:06 pm
T switch between 110 and 220 i have to 1 change the configuration of wiring inside a box on the motor and 2 change the plug. No hard but it cantjust
be plugged into either unless this is done.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: papasage on December 29, 2013, 05:40:47 pm
my son in law has a  harbor freight and it went out after 10 years . came over and borrowed my  portable till he could  find a replacement . i have a 5 hp twin cylinder i bought  new in  1994. still have my old  small compressor with a steel pump needs a pressure switch .

yep i can`t  under stan how a 5 Lb tank will hold a 100 Lb of air and can still toate it like it was empty
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Mojo on December 29, 2013, 05:54:01 pm
June:

If it will be stationary then go with an oil filled unit. Look for a Porter Cable at Lowes. I have a Portyer stationary unit and a 6 gal portable Porter unit. Both have been great performers. One is 8 years old and the stationary unit is 14 years old.

Chris
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: JuneC on January 16, 2014, 07:56:14 am
Update on the compressor if anyone might encounter this problem...

My compressor didn't die, it was suffering from low voltage.  Everything else ran, lights didn't dim (compact fluorescent), no other issues.  The compressor was just bang.... bang..... bang... then threw the breaker.  I didn't realize the voltage issue until my radio started cutting out. 

Now for the kicker.  Yes, I tried it at home.  Home (5 miles away) was having voltage issues as well, all at the same time.  Everything at home ran just fine except for the motor on the icemaker delivery system (through the door).  I was attributing that to the cheap fridge we bought 5 years ago. 

Voltage at the yard hasn't been resolved yet.  At home, the power company changed some grounding wire/device on the transformer out back and it's been fine ever since. 

June
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: bobbin on January 16, 2014, 08:29:39 am
My Porter Cable took a total -hit about 3 mos. ago.  It was working harder than it needed to when called upon to service my Juki 1541 and pneumatic stapler.  There seemed to be a leak in the system (pvc piped).  No leaks in the tubing.  Compressor issue.  Turns out it was a regulator failure (fully seized).  And fully PREVENTABLE but I never knew to relieve the pressure on the regulator valve when I wasn't using the compressor.  DUH!

Regulator valve replaced.  I now know to release pressure on that valve whenever the compressor is not in use! (um, duh!).  Reverse thread bleed stem has been replaced with an easy to use valve (ball cock?).  Note to self:  do not take helpmeet's "expertise" as gospel (regardless of how smart s/he is).  I learned more about compressors from the repair guy! and now I understand how they really work and how to prolong their usefulness!
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Lo on January 17, 2014, 08:51:32 am
I swear before I read this post a month ago my at least 20 yr old oil-free compressor was FINE . . . then right afterwards it blew a valve . . . hubby determined it was the bleeder valve. After much a-do we finally got the valve and the hubby replaced it . . . worked fine for about 2x and now is leaking worse than before  :(

Thank goodness for my portable unit . . . works for everything but does not have the 'air pull' to fill cushions with a bazooka. I am hopeful that the issues can be solved as I too am not really up for starting over.
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: gene on January 17, 2014, 09:06:41 am
I know what you mean, Lo.

I started talking about loosing weight at the end of 2013, and my knee buckled on me last week. I needed crutches to get around up until Wednesday of this week. I'm wearing an ace bandage and icing it every hour. I still can't lift anything.

I told my wife that I'll never think about loosing weight again.  ;D

Also, a car hit a utility poll and the electricity was out in my shop recently. After an hour there was enough electricity to run one somewhat dimly florescent light, and the indicator lights on my two heaters were on but the motors would not run. It is a weird experience to have only a little bit of electricity. I did not try my compressor but I'm sure it would not have run.

gene
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Lo on January 17, 2014, 01:20:16 pm
Update . . . hubby dismantled and reassembled the unit . . . dang he's G-O-O-D!!! All better again - whew.

Gene . . . that just plain sucks . . . your knee and loss of power :)

Sure hope it improves sooner than later . . . yah know spring is just around the corner (at least that is what I keep repeating to self for the next 90 days . . . mind over matter I say :)
 
Title: Re: Compressor Issues
Post by: Darren Henry on January 18, 2014, 05:15:29 am
QuoteMy compressor didn't die, it was suffering from low voltage.


Is that common down your way? I have one compressor that will not run on an extension cord [it must be 14.9 amp  :D], but I wouldn't have ever thought of that where you had been using it in that location before.