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Title: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 04, 2013, 12:46:21 pm
I found a machine in Texas that is just what I want and sounds like a good price. Does anybody have any idea what shipping cost could be for an industrial machine with table going from Kemel,Texas To Maine would be. I don't know where to start looking for as a shipping comp. or I would figure this out myself and decide if it is worth pursuing. Thanks, Ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: sofadoc on March 04, 2013, 02:34:14 pm
Just to get a general idea, you could start here:
https://www.freightquote.com/tour/signup.aspxt

Just enter the to/from zip codes, size, weight of crate, etc. (I would guess approx. 200lbs, 4ft.X4ft. crate).

It will certainly help if the sender can disassemble the table.

I got a feeling the shipping cost is going to make a "good deal" suddenly seem "not so good". ;)
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: Mojo on March 05, 2013, 04:03:43 am
Probably close to $ 200 to have it crated if it includes the table. If it is just the head then probably less then $ 100. About $ 150 to have everything boxed.

My Chandler, complete with motor, table and head was $ 100 from Toledo to Tampa. The head alone would have been $ 50.

Chris
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: JDUpholstery on March 05, 2013, 10:16:30 am
is it a new machine from a distributor, or used coming from a 3rd party? if it is new, I would find a seller who offers free shipping, when I bought my consew I shopped around and finally found a place that had free shipping which saved me about 200 bucks....if it is 3rd party it will have to be shipped via truck in a crate and will cost ya a few hundred
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 06, 2013, 08:55:04 am
Quote from: sofadoc on March 04, 2013, 02:34:14 pm
Just to get a general idea, you could start here:
https://www.freightquote.com/tour/signup.aspxt

Just enter the to/from zip codes, size, weight of crate, etc. (I would guess approx. 200lbs, 4ft.X4ft. crate).

It will certainly help if the sender can disassemble the table.

I got a feeling the shipping cost is going to make a "good deal" suddenly seem "not so good". ;)

Thank-You for your help. I since have learned that when someone states ship local only means that they are not willing to do anything further,no matter what. To bad it sounded like a great deal.. But now I  know how to figure out the shipping cost. i'm trying to find a walking foot machine so I can do cushions easier. I have always sewn them on my brother- straight foot, but, i am told  it would be so much easier to have a walking foot and they don't know how I have done with out? Do you have any thoughts on that? Thanks again!
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 06, 2013, 09:26:59 am
Quote from: JDUpholstery on March 05, 2013, 10:16:30 am
is it a new machine from a distributor, or used coming from a 3rd party? if it is new, I would find a seller who offers free shipping, when I bought my consew I shopped around and finally found a place that had free shipping which saved me about 200 bucks....if it is 3rd party it will have to be shipped via truck in a crate and will cost ya a few hundred


Thank-You for your help. It is someone I found on craig's list though they said they were selling some of there inventory., but there not willing to ship anything but locally. I'm trying to find a walking foot machine w/table at a reasonable price. i have always used my brother straight foot for everything but an upholstery friend said i really should have a walking foot for cushions, which i admit are alway a bit challenging because of the pull and stretch factor but I didn't realize that is a better way, ha ha. I'm just a one man band so and just getting back into this after a bout with M.S. so if it have any info on this, that would be great. Do you think a walking foot would make all the difference ? Thanks for your input. Ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: Mojo on March 06, 2013, 10:59:40 am
Ginny:

I would not be without a walking foot. They are the standard for upholstery work, especially cushions. yes some sew without them but I feel they are a necessity for people doing certain types of work like what your doing.

Give Bob Kovar a call and see what he has there for used machines. I know he typically has used machines there that he has gone through and sells. Bob will not buy or sell junk machines. His stuff is really good. I would be very hesitant on buying anything used unless it was from a very reputable dealer. This is especially true when you cannot run the machine yourself in person. If you cannot see and use the machine in person then stay clear of the used machines on e-bay and craigslist.

Give Bob a call and tell him I said he has to give you a good deal. His number is:
- 419--380-8540. I bought my Chandler from him and others on here have bought machines from Bob and he is one awesome straight shooting dealer. He really goes the extra mile to help you. He also is a member here and helps us guys out when we have problems.

Chris
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: sofadoc on March 06, 2013, 12:03:25 pm
Ginny

Which type of upholsterer are you?

Type A: Full time upholsterer........this is how you make your living.

Type B: Part time........NOT your day job.

If you're Type A, you need a walking foot machine.
If you're Type B, you STILL need a walking foot machine.........BUT, depending on your level of commitment, you may not want to spend a lot of money on one.

I saw a Singer 111W 155 on Maine Craigslist for $400. This would not be a good deal for a Type A upholsterer.
But for a Type B on a limited budget, it's like having money in the bank. You can always sell it for about the same price later.

But if you have a little over a grand to spend, then Mojo's suggestion (Chandler from Bob) would be your best decision.
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: JDUpholstery on March 06, 2013, 04:06:07 pm
Quote from: ginnyd on March 06, 2013, 09:26:59 am
Thank-You for your help. It is someone I found on craig's list though they said they were selling some of there inventory., but there not willing to ship anything but locally. I'm trying to find a walking foot machine w/table at a reasonable price. i have always used my brother straight foot for everything but an upholstery friend said i really should have a walking foot for cushions, which i admit are alway a bit challenging because of the pull and stretch factor but I didn't realize that is a better way, ha ha. I'm just a one man band so and just getting back into this after a bout with M.S. so if it have any info on this, that would be great. Do you think a walking foot would make all the difference ? Thanks for your input. Ginnyd


I started with a straight stitch Singer, and did the job ok, or I thought so, until I purchased my walking foot, dont know how I ever did without it.. if you  want to purchase it and he will only ship local, you can arrange your own shipping and the shipping company can pick it up, pack it and ship it....try one the companies that do LTL (less than a load) shipping like Roadway or ABF,

Also is there such a thing as "after a bout of MS"? I have MS as well and it never stops presenting a daily challenge for me!
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 09, 2013, 03:39:32 pm
Hi thank-you for all your great information. ...Yes I have Remitting/Relapsing MS .It rears it's head about every 6-7 yrs. so far . It takes me right out from under my feet in every direction but it tappers off and then calms down and I manage after hard work to get almost back to normal. Each time has been a different part of my body but the last time it was all of them combined. Not good. So I was able to go on Rebiff ,I have been good so far , but it also has only been 4 yrs since I started it. My Neurologist said I could n't plan on it only happening every 6-7 so I really should do this Rebiff. Also a steroid can stop the exacerbation quickly if I receive it as soon as I feel it starting again. I hate giving myself, and depending on others, injections but at this point the alternative is much worst. They just came out with an oral medicine but it has only been on the market for 2-3 years and very expensive.  Sorry to go on and on. There is just so much to it. How is the M.S. affecting you? I truly believe that keeping positive,eating well and being happy all helps with any illness.  I decided to start back at Upholstering because that is what I know,And I need an income. I worry about the heavy furniture moving but am trying to set up my work room so it won't be so bad. I plan to have help moving it in and out. Unfortunately i have been spouseless for many yrs now so I don't have a helper at home. Well Take Care, Nice to meet you here, Ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 09, 2013, 03:51:23 pm
 has anybody done business with a man in Turner ,Me.?  I found his add on Craig s list,Me. I have e-mailed him and he has a shop with several machines and told me I could come by an try them . He was very informative and helpful  about walking feet machines. it sounds like it might be a good idea and I could pick it up, if I find one . His prices seemed reasonable. I have to see them to figure that out. Yes i am A type A and need a heavy duty so I could do couches, chairs cushions and anything that may come my way, health permitting !
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: sofadoc on March 10, 2013, 10:53:05 am
Ginny: It isn't likely that anyone here is familiar with the guy in Turner.

I saw one of his CL ads:
http://maine.craigslist.org/ard/3646752922.html

The Juki 563 is a great machine. No model could be any more appropriate for your type of work.

But as with most used machines, there always seems to be about a $400 difference between what I would ASK for one, and what I would PAY for one.

I don't blame the guy a bit for asking a grand. But it is an old machine, and really isn't worth that much, although dealers routinely do sell rebuilt ones in the $1000 range.

There should be a price somewhere between $500 and $1000 that is fair to the both of you.

With brand new Chandlers and Consews in the $1000-$1200 range, I would be hesitant to pay nearly that much on a 35-40 year old one.
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 10, 2013, 06:41:22 pm
wow, thanks so much for this helpful information. I really appreciate it. ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 11, 2013, 07:29:31 am
I e-mailed Bob and he said he has a Consew 225, table and everything for 600 plus shipping. I was figuring around 200 hundred for shipping. Does that sound good ? I will call him today yo get more on the running of it. I'm excited. I may have a machine here. What's your opinion?  ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: sofadoc on March 11, 2013, 08:14:17 am
Here is a great video of the 225 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRa3oFdWwWI

This video is also a great demo of the whole "walking foot" setup.

It would be nice to have reverse. The 225 in the video doesn't appear to have that, so I assume that none of the 225's do. But many people go their whole careers without reverse. You just learn to lock your stitches by bumping the knee lift, and scooting the fabric back an inch, and sewing over it.

$600 is more than I would pay an individual on CL for one. But coming from a reputable dealer like Bob, who has just finished completely servicing the machine, that price sounds fair.

Again, having a machine like that one is almost like having money in the bank. If you decide to upgrade to a reverse model later on, you can always sell that one for close to what you paid for it (maybe more, if the right buyer just happens along).
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: ginnyd on March 11, 2013, 08:56:44 am
Hi, I watched the video and it was a good one. Thank-You for the heads up on the reverse. I agree it's not a huge deal , but I would have been surprised not knowing this. I guess I would rather have reverse than not but I will take that into consideration. The good part is it comes with everything I need to start up. If the shipping isn't to bad than I wouldn't mind the price.  Thanks again,  ginnyd
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: Mojo on March 12, 2013, 06:23:08 am
Ginny:

I forgot to add that the nice thing about buying from Bob is that the machine will be delivered
ready to sew. No further adjustments will be needed. I bought my first machine ( brand new ) from an online dealer and I screwed with that for 3 months till I got it to sew right. It was so far off on timing it wasn't funny. When I bought my machine from Bob I was up and sewing in hours. It sewed perfectly.

Buying a used machine from someone on craigslist or from a private party could cost you a couple hundred dollars more and alot of frustration. Some of these people sell machines that have worn out hooks, tension discs and take ups and worst of all the machine is out of time. Unless you can fix all this yourself your going to have to take it to a sewing machine dealer or repair person to have it fixed. if one isnt near you then it will have to be shipped out for repair.

If Bob sends you a machine it will be all setup, worn parts replaced and it will be ready for to sew. Your better off spending a little more now on a good machine that has been professionaly setup then having to spend alot more later.

Best of luck with your decision and purchase.

Chris
Title: Re: shipping
Post by: JDUpholstery on March 12, 2013, 12:12:28 pm
One of my machines lacks reverse, and it did not take me long to get into the habit of either turning it around and back stitching, or raising the foot and sliding it back an inch as sofadoc said, reverse is convenient, but not necessary, if the price is right....

I have Progressive Relapsing MS so mine is a little more aggressive than yours apparently, it would be nice to have it remit as much as yours does, glad you are getting back on your feet and doing something you enjoy, it is worth it