I would like to create a wind dodger for my speedboat, because it gets cooler in the late afternoon now. I removed the old windshield because it was worthless.
My idea is to use the small bow off a nice stainless steel bimini I have laying around. Set it up going forward, and support it with 2 small poll supports. I should be able to get a good pull off the front snaps that way.
Any idea's or things I should consider...?? Easily removable mounts..??
Thanks, Ed
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This sounds like what peppy had donenon his old boat made anwindow and a closed bow on an open boat.
The Filthy ore http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/C43F9559-1B26-4876-9C4B-C889F0A9526A-1130-00000127C6D905CB.jpg
On yours Ed Id attach it tothe boat with a white flexitrac.
Id had a sutphen with no window nice in the summer but it was cold in the fall
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy102/Mike8560/Copy2ofHW.jpg
Ive seen but dont know where to buy a fitting that will adjust anstrit with a tunnukle loke liece so tou could put the support leg on then really get it tight sith them
WOW..!! What Peppy did looks awesome...!! Your right, mine will be similar.
So you are thinking I will need adjustable supports in the front instead of ridgid...?? Hmmm..thanks Mike
You. Could do it with a normal support leg. But it would be cool to be able to make it tighter then it streaches a bit from wind or the sun. You could always use polycarbonate rigod as it would be semi permanate while its cold.
You can get adjusting external end plugs from Performance Textiles. Like regular eye ends but the eye part
unscrews to adjust. In the 1" size they make a right and left hand version so you can twist the pole in place
and it will shorten or lengthen. They don't have a website but I will scan the page later and email to you.
Hey look that's my boat! Thanks Mike, saves me finding the link on my ipod.
I found I didn't need the bar under the window. It helped patterning it but didn't do anything for the canvas. I took it out and replaced it with dingle balls. I had posts (from the travel tarp) pushing up on the top bar. Later I changed those to little tension bars that clipped to the side. At the back corners I put adjustable straps pulling back. I'll try to find some pictures.
By the way Mike, how do you post photobucket links with your iPhone? I have nothing but trouble and use imgur now.
http://i.imgur.com/LvBoD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0U5p9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aEsqZ.jpg
It's mounted on slide track so it can slide forward or flip around and store at the back.
Photobucket jas a app at the app store and each photo has codes avsilble to copy
Peppy, it's amazing how you came you with that design. It's not something you see out there...very trick.
I would like to use the existing snap studs for the mooring cover... I think the angle (45 degrees)will be right inline with the slope of the dodger, which should stop the snaps from poping off.
Another question: how would you do the wrap over the bow..? Snaps? Zippers? Velcro? or just sew up a tight loop and slide the bow in...??
Thanks very much! I had a vision of an inside out dodger and had to try it out. Funny thing is the Filthy Oar had a windshield at one point and somebody turned into a tiller boat. It's come full circle I guess. The boat is currently for sale actually, to make room for my new slightly bigger boat the Sea Hare.
I put zippers on the pockets because I hate sliding frame into a sewn shut pocket. Sewing it shut might be a little sleaker though. Depends if you want it off the frame much I guess.
Right on Mike. I used that app but it stopped working for me, but that might have been on my old iPod. Maybe I'll give it another go, although I like imgur way more but I can't find clickable thumb links on the mobile apps.
Id just make a tight sleeve no fastner. It would look. Leaner. Think but you will need openeing in the pocket for the support fitting
Here's picture of the frame. I mounted it over the weekend. I let my wife set the height, because whatever height I choose would of course be WRONG....hahaha It actually went on pretty easy, and picked up the isinglass so I just have to create the windshield now...
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Is the hight set so you just look over the frame ?
Delends on how tight you pull the vinyl ut you may need support in the center so the frame dosent flex.
I loke the look sith no window! But it sould be cold. Unless you dtored it at my dock. For the winter ;)
Mike, you sit somewhat low in the boat. So I will be looking through the glass unless I sit on a cushion. As you can see, the middle of the dash comes out like a vee. I am hoping that shape will help create some stability. The bow is made of very good grade stainless steel, heavy actually. I pushed down on it and it seems pretty solid. So hopefully if I get a good pull on it, it will give just enough to keep tension. I hope...lol
I just thinking of somthing peppy doese tentioning his top frames before patterning oulling tention on the center of the frame then when you pattern the piece in Your case the wi dow it will be fit with tentions already.
I see what your saying. I am going to pattern the bow first then pattern the snaps with a good pull. Nut if I start to get too much bend I will have to back off...
I am going to lay out the isinglass this weekend. Any tips or thoughts on a way to make it come out looking cleaner or stronger. I was going to pattern it like a bimini, leaving the top seam for the sleeve more rearward, opposite the angle of the isinglass. I have some nice white dacron laying around, was thinking that would look good and be strong.
Any thoughts???
I would tension the frame like mike was saying, and then made a paper bag. I found pics of my dodger pattern.
http://i.imgur.com/gnQjO.jpg
That's it strung up.
http://i.imgur.com/Rgbxo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/18FN5.jpg
One of the rare occaisions I made the whole thing.
Hi Pep,
Thanks for the pics. I am going to pattern mine tomorrow. I hope I can get the nice look you achieved with the clear vinyl. I am going to have to with a zipper for practical reasons. If I want to raise and lower it, I don't want to krinkle the isinglass in the corners and ruin it...
Ed what guage vinyl do you plan to use. On a side note what is the speed of your volicity?
I am using 40 gauge vinyl. I tried it out this weekend and it worked well, needs some fine tuning to keep it tight side to side.
The best speed I got out of the boat was 73.1 MPH on GPS...
Quote from: Highvelocity on October 15, 2012, 07:12:40 am
I am using 40 gauge vinyl. I tried it out this weekend and it worked well, needs some fine tuning to keep it tight side to side.
The best speed I got out of the boat was 73.1 MPH on GPS...
Let's see pictures! Maybe you need snaps in the pocket, pulling along the bar? I do that often.
Hey Mike, here you go...
Also, I was impatient and did not web the bottom where the snaps go, could that be causing some of my issues...???
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Well snaps do need to be supported with somtjing strong not to tear out webbing or layered material e t but as it is now i see some wrinkles at the corners of the bow. Id play eith the seam ow puil it tighter removing the ripples if it bothers you or let it tighten up when it gets cold. It doese the job im sure and is temposry only when its cold.
Mike the issue is when we are up on plane, I am getting "Pull Wrinkles" starting at the snaps. So I am hoping the webbing will cure that aspect... Then I will pull the seam in a bit...
I had a guy sith a 30' bluewater center console with tein 300hps i did a t top enclosure with gullsings the wings wee attached with lockjng fastners to the gunnels he riped the straps off and asked me what to do. Insaid slow down. Perhaps your be better off with polycarbonate Ed
And like i said. Ecore id rather use a pvc track for the. Bottom of the window.
Mike, where can I get the polycarbonate...????
I think thats what I will wind up with in the end. I replaced some of it on a fishing boat with strataglass...it was old and cracking but my machine still punched right through a scrap.
J ennis has it or ocean clear will set you up Boyle. Trivsntage must have it
Mike,
I will take a look and see whats out there, thanks for the info.
By the way, with my wife on board, my boat goes about 25 to 30MPH that's it...!!!
The older i get i agree. I had a 18 sutphen 20 ueads ago and loved ripping up the lake just the prop wet. But now i can see the attraction to. Ponyoon. Idealy if i could id like a new deckboat. Like searay sundeck.