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Title: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: jojo on May 10, 2012, 05:53:56 am
Do most of you use 30 or 40 gauge for enclosures when you're buying off the roll? Is either ok, and is one better than the other or just thicker? Thanks!
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: timtheboatguy on May 10, 2012, 05:59:49 am
I have only worked with 30 myself.
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: JuneC on May 10, 2012, 06:05:29 am
The only "off the roll" goods I use are 20 gauge and that's only for camper backs - simply because the pieces are large and I make the windows big so the canvas starts getting too heavy with thick vinyl.  Also, the clarity is not so important.  For forward and side enclosure panels, I use 30 or 40 gauge sheets.  40 gauge is more expensive, but has better clarity than the 30 simply because the thickness causes it to flex and distort images less.  60 gauge is even better, but it's super heavy.  60 gauge starts to look like polycarbonate if templated and installed correctly. 

June
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: jojo on May 10, 2012, 06:33:44 am
Wow...thanks for the info! Customers in these parts are very budget conscious, so buying genuine strataglass or anything like that is out of the question.
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: Mike on May 10, 2012, 10:17:51 am
 40 g dosent come on a roll that im asare of i dont use 20 its just to thin dor me like the stuff used on a resteraunt  table  mostly 30g roll or sheet 40 and 60g
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: DBR1957 on May 10, 2012, 02:01:29 pm
Depends on the area, boat size and job. For sewing in replacement vinyl use 20 to
30 gauge. The original vinyl has already shrunk some and 20/30 gives a little
flexibility.

For new jobs on smaller boats we go with 30. For new larger boats sheet or Strata
in the front where visibility is important then 40 roll for aft curtains or camper
enclosures. I have had customers request sheet or Strata all around.

It amazes me though, some of the posts I read on here about frugal customers
and materials. Compared to the full job, the difference between this material or
that material is miniscule. When I explain the difference in quality and longevity
of materials compared to the cost I have never had a customer want the less
expensive material.
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: bobbin on May 10, 2012, 02:01:44 pm
We use 30 gauge on the roll, Jojo.  The clarity isn't as good as sheet goods, but it's more than adequate for most jobs where a customer is watching the pennies.  It's what we generally use when we're rehabbing a dodger.  We never use 20 g. as it simply doesn't hold up well when it comes to cold cracking.  

You have to watch the clarity for the first yard/so on the roll and the also the last yard/so.  Quality tends to peter out, so when calculating your price/yard be aware that you will "write off" a couple/3 yards before you get to the better clarity.  

We use 40g but not exclusively because it's cold here for many months of the year and 40g can make installing and using curtains difficult.  
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: Grebo on May 11, 2012, 07:42:56 am
I tend to use the stuff off the roll for anything that's going to get folded down on a regular basis. The thicker, sparkling clear 30 or 40g is fine until it's been squished down a few times then it tends to get more hazy than the thin stuff. If it's some thing that is not going to get moved around to much I would always talk them into the good stuff.
We don't have the cold issue more trouble with burn out than anything else.

Suzi
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: Mike on May 11, 2012, 11:07:13 am
Ya suzi I was surprised when I first came to Florida and saw y ridge models with the  only sll on in the ICW in summer.   Here the vinyls up and the ac on the bridge is on. 
Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: regalman190 on May 11, 2012, 11:14:58 am
I only use 30 ga roll vinyl on small jobs when a customer wants "INEXPENSIVE".....

Otherwise, I always use 30 ga. sheets, 40ga. for very large windows.

Title: Re: Clear Vinyl Question
Post by: Peppy on May 11, 2012, 04:28:49 pm
We use 30g roll on everything. The last few years demand for sheet has been rising. Typically 30g only the front windows but a few are going for everywhere but the screens.