US CUSTOMS requires that a product made with imported thread be labeled,with the country of origin of the thread.
I read here that SolarFIX thread was made in CANADA, WRONG made in CHINA.
SOLAR THREADII is made in AUSTRIA
Do you want to say my awning or boat cover has thread from CHINA?
If you check both PTFE thread they have about the same price. Why buy from CHINA?
Are you shipping a product to the US or out of the US?
Fill us in a little more why you're concerned with this.
If you've made a product and it's not leaving the US does this even apply?
It would be nice to be able to tell your customers that all the supplies you use to make your product is made in the USA. But that is getting harder and harder to do. If you can, it may be a good advertising ploy.
You can't trust much from China. It's like the wild west of the business world.
-Andrew
Quote from: ahkahn on May 07, 2012, 06:09:16 pm
You can't trust much from China. It's like the wild west of the business world.
-Andrew
I heard from a furniture refinishing friend, who's wife works in interior decorating, that she(his wife) knows of at least 2 companies that have moved their production back to the States, because quality control in China is, to put it bluntly, crap. This its not only for fabric, but most things that come from there. It may be that the wages are so low that the workers don't care, I don't know and am not one to speculate, so I will end it there. It was good to hear that some manufacturing is actually moving back to the good ole U.S.A.
Wade
I read an interesting article last year. Most of the wood China uses to build furniture comes from the USA. I guess they don't have good furniture building wood. With the cost of fuel going ever higher, By the time furniture companies here, ship the wood there, then ship the furniture back, the money they save is slowly decreasing. Do a job search in NC and see all the manufacturing employment for upholsterers.
Kody, from what I heard from hanging out in northern BC (where logging is THE industry) Lumber gets put on a giant factory ship. On its way to china they make it into furniture. Then they turn the ship around once it gets there and bring back finished furniture here. Something about needing to dock in China for it to be Chinese or something. If its true I imagine this is more the solid wood furniture than upholstered stuff.
But I think you're right about their dwindling profits. A furniture factory nearby that closed several years ago was just recently bought by the Chinese. They plan on making it staffed by locals and managed by Chinese. Maybe they figure the locals have been out of work so long they're willing to work for ยข50 a day.
I have never heard of Solar Thread before. First I have heard of this brand. I also never knew Solarfix was manufactured in China.
Interesting.
Chris
With some of the new laws and rules that were employed, anything comming in via ocean freight must be accuratly stated on he waybill as to the county of manufacture. I forget the details, but this was done as part of the homeland security measures in place years ago. Again, I'm not specifially clear on the details.
Matthew. After doing some checking with Miami Mike he has indicated none of his customers have had a failure with Solarfix. He is selling 15 lbs a week including the harsh climate of Florida. I have been using Solarfix and have never had a failure ever.
I believe ( correct me if I am wrong ) that your a vendor for Solarthread. If so then I find it in poor taste that a competing vendor would come on here and bash another's product line. If you look at our vendors on this forum - Bob Kovar, Greg, Andrew, Miami Mike, never have I read them bashing each other or the product lines they carry. They play nice with each other on this forum.
Sorry but I found your post in poor taste as did others who are directly tied to Solarfix ( MiamiMike and Michael ). I can say that both companies have gone way beyond the mark in supporting me with my own product line and I find them extremely professional, honest and hardworking for their customers.
Chris
Yeah, Mojo, it's in poor taste to bash a competitors products or practices... Plus, overall, we all mostly carry the same product lines.
As for the SolarFix thread, I spoke with the manufacturer and it is NOT made in China, never has been. It is made in Taiwan, which has much stricter quality standards, and a much better product reputation.
I hope this helps!
-Andrew
Thank you Andrew. You, Miami Mike, Bob and Greg all carry yourselves as professionals here and us stitcher's expect nothing less.
We are a tight knit group on here all supporting one another and getting help and offering it whenever we can. I just felt posts like this are uncalled for. Solarfix, MiamiMike nor yourself deserve that kind of bashing. All of you work hard in supporting us and we appreciate it. I bust my ass promoting my products which includes Solarfix and I do not appreciate my product getting bashed because of the thread I use.
It is my understanding that this conversation / topic is a carry over from another forum. It was not well received there either. :)
Chris
Quote from: ahkahn on May 07, 2012, 06:09:16 pm
You can't trust much from China. It's like the wild west of the business world.
-Andrew
That's a common line but not true, I'm making surfboard covers and all the big name covers made in China/Taiwan/Thailand are of very high quality as much as I would like to talk them down the standard of sewing is A1.
A mate travels to Taiwan alot for Quiksilver, he reckons that it is the company ordering the product from the Chinese that is the problem, they ask for it to be made as cheaply as possible so they can sell more product at a cheaper price and the person that buys there stuff will come back and buy another cause it's half the price of the good quality one. How many times have I heard on this forum of someone buying cheap tools,cause they do the job and then just buy another one when it wears out prematurely. Your all happy with your asian made knock off brand sewing machines? Stop hanging it on China, they will make whatever you order from them.
On the subject of Chinese buy factory's in western country's, it's happening in Australia too, in 20 years time it is very likely that you will be getting your sewing machines from Australia, cause this is where the iron ore is.
Me thinks One post Matthew was bored & had nothing better to do.
:P
Suzi
"One post wonders" never impress me too much. Regardless of the "agenda".
Quote from: DBR1957 on May 07, 2012, 03:58:19 pm
Are you shipping a product to the US or out of the US?
Fill us in a little more why you're concerned with this.
If you've made a product and it's not leaving the US does this even apply?
Yes it does
Quote from: kodydog on May 07, 2012, 05:37:14 pm
It would be nice to be able to tell your customers that all the supplies you use to make your product is made in the USA. But that is getting harder and harder to do. If you can, it may be a good advertising ploy.
We had to go to EUROPE to make our thread. We don't want give China any more,we have kids and grand kids.
Quote from: Mojo on May 08, 2012, 03:39:22 am
I have never heard of Solar Thread before. First I have heard of this brand. I also never knew Solarfix was manufactured in China.
Interesting.
SOLAR THREAD DOES NOT COST MORE pathread@netcarrier.com
Chris
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on May 08, 2012, 06:10:11 am
With some of the new laws and rules that were employed, anything comming in via ocean freight must be accuratly stated on he waybill as to the county of manufacture. I forget the details, but this was done as part of the homeland security measures in place years ago. Again, I'm not specifially clear on the details.
Gregg go to" US CUSTOMS REGULATIONS for importing textiles.
Quote from: Mojo on May 08, 2012, 08:15:44 am
Matthew. After doing some checking with Miami Mike he has indicated none of his customers have had a failure with Solarfix. He is selling 15 lbs a week including the harsh climate of Florida. I have been using Solarfix and have never had a failure ever.
I believe ( correct me if I am wrong ) that your a vendor for Solarthread. If so then I find it in poor taste that a competing vendor would come on here and bash another's product line. If you look at our vendors on this forum - Bob Kovar, Greg, Andrew, Miami Mike, never have I read them bashing each other or the product lines they carry. They play nice with each other on this forum.
Sorry but I found your post in poor taste as did others who are directly tied to Solarfix ( MiamiMike and Michael ). I can say that both companies have gone way beyond the mark in supporting me with my own product line and I find them extremely professional, honest and hardworking for their customers.
Chris I quoted the law. i did not bash anyone. I made it clear to the person that said SolarFIX was made in Canada. Did bash the quality of SolarFIX? You can buy what you want.
I did not bash Mike or anyone.
HOME LAND SECURITY requires that any thread imported must be labeled
from the importer to the final consumer.
Go to US customs Regulations for importing textiles.
This is info you should know,if you don't want to know so be it.
does't CHINA have enough of the US I have kids and grand kids what will be left for them
Quote from: MATTHEW on May 09, 2012, 01:20:44 pm
Quote from: kodydog on May 07, 2012, 05:37:14 pm
It would be nice to be able to tell your customers that all the supplies you use to make your product is made in the USA. But that is getting harder and harder to do. If you can, it may be a good advertising ploy.
We had to go to EUROPE to make our thread. We don't want give China any more,we have kids and grand kids.
Sooo.... What is the difference between buying from China or Europe, if it wasn't made in America then what does it matter what country it is made in, whether t be Switzerland, Bulgaria, Indonesia or Australia. If your getting your product overseas, then jobs are leaving your country. The quality of product from the eastern block European countries is no better than China, my guess is that your real choice for getting your thread produced there was your profit margins.
What difference will it make to your grand kids? Giving it to Europe instead of China, that's illogical, you have taken production out of your kids country so it doesn't matter where it goes they won't benefit, they will from your profit margin though wont they.
I will not say anything about the solarfix, but on the china thing, not everything from China is bad. Where is the IPhone and IPad made? And the batteries come from Taiwan . So please think before you speak out.
And I put some thought into this first.
I hope you all have a great rest of the week and weekend.