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Title: Consultation from members
Post by: fingers on February 26, 2012, 07:32:22 am
I have a couple chairs in my shop and need some insight from ya'll. They appear to have been designed as attached pillow backs. The loose back cushions are original from the manufacturer and filled with poly. I'm going to omit the welt on the lower section, around the zipper and where it goes up against the arms. In my experience it doesn't add a thing to the final product and becomes distorted rather quickly. Currently it has a forward facing zipper to accommodate the curvature of the back. Don't like that approach myself as it's directional, I'm going to straighten the zipper out. Should I just leave it at that or do ya'll think I oughta add a couple small little puckers down low where the face meets up with the zipper? Looking for suggestions please.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: bobbin on February 26, 2012, 09:12:50 am
Need help with the visual.  Pix?
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: MinUph on February 26, 2012, 10:07:31 am
Yea fingers wheres the pics.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: sofadoc on February 26, 2012, 11:01:50 am
Me too. I'm not picturing it.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: fingers on February 26, 2012, 11:25:11 am
Getting an error.....something about an upload path. Tried making pictures smaller with no luck.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: sofadoc on February 26, 2012, 11:38:59 am
Do you have an account with a photo storage site like Photobucket? (It's free).  You can upload them there, and link them here by copying the IMG thumbnail, and pasting it here. 
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: fingers on February 26, 2012, 11:47:23 am
Lets see if this works   http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t329/four5fingers/chair.jpg
                               http://i512.photobucket.com/albums/t329/four5fingers/oddzipper.jpg
Well it is now dagnabbit......well it was....how come when I clicked on it to check it went dead?
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: sofadoc on February 26, 2012, 02:07:00 pm
Quote from: fingers on February 26, 2012, 07:32:22 am
Currently it has a forward facing zipper to accommodate the curvature of the back.

I'm going to straighten the zipper out.
Are you saying that it has a "crescent-shaped" zipper panel that fits the curvature of the inside back?
And you're going to replace it with a straight zipper panel?

I'm still trying to picture it. The zipper j-peg still isn't clickable.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: JuneC on February 26, 2012, 03:39:49 pm
Copy and paste that link into your browser's URL at the top of the screen.  It'll work then. 

June
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: kodydog on February 26, 2012, 03:42:34 pm
I highlighted the bottom link then right click then hit "open link" and got a pic of the zipper.

I don't see a problem with leaving the welt off as you describe. As far as the zipper its going to be try it and see.
I can see what you mean about curving the zipper to form to the back. don't know what would happen if you straighten it out, even with pleats it may sit funny. If you have the time and fabric try it and see. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: kodydog on February 26, 2012, 04:20:27 pm
Come to think of it I can't recall ever seeing a curved zipper even on a curved back. are you sure the zipper hasn't just taken the form of the back from years of leaning against it? Did you try taking a steamer to it. If the zipper is curved that would mean the front panel is smaller than the back panel, at least down by the zipper. I'd go the way you describe and then put a little more loose fill in and go with it. Should work.

Just looked at it again and it sure is curved. I'd straighten it. The customer probably never knew and just put it in any old way.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: sofadoc on February 26, 2012, 04:42:11 pm
I finally got the zipper j-peg to open. Here's what I think may have happened.
I'm assuming this chair has been recovered before.
I think the zipper panel was made from the leftover piece when they cut out the inside back panel at the bottom. Does that make sense? I mean, when they cut out the inside back panel to contour, they took the "cut-off" piece, and made a zipper panel out of it. Or it could've come from the excess "cut-off" of the outside arm panels.
If this was a factory job, it blows my theory all to hell.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: kodydog on February 26, 2012, 05:31:27 pm
Then again Sofa, If they were once simi-attached as stated,

"They appear to have been designed as attached pillow backs."

Then the zipper may have been curved. You can't flip a simi-attached cushion anyway. Whoever upholstered it last time, and made them loose cushions, should have straightened the zipper. IMO
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: sofadoc on February 26, 2012, 05:37:37 pm
If it were semi-attached originally, it's possible that the inside back went all the way down into the crevice, and stapled.
Whatever happened, I like the idea of straight zipper with no welt at the bottom.
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: fingers on February 26, 2012, 05:39:07 pm
Sorry Sofa, a 100% sure it's factory and it is definitely curved but your take was my first impression as well. Yep, I steamed it just to confirm. My thinking with the shallow puckers/pleats at the bottom is it would give some place for the excess fabric to go as it conformed to the inside curve. Though out of the ordinary it would not look all together out of place because it has the same pleats at the top corners and one on either side. What made me think of it to begin with is many attached inside backs have the same pleats down low, typically sewn to a pull. They give guidance to what the buttons form out of the excess fabric. The rub is there are no buttons and was looking for feedback on that point, just didn't get that far in the explanation. Mostly was trying to simply refine/adapt to the special circumstances, maybe even learn a thing or two from ya'll along the way. I think I will include the shallow pleats at the bottom if for any other reason they will eventually form themselves any how. This would make them look like they belonged there and be fairly subtle. Think I'll narrow the width of zipper by a half inch or so as well. The way it looks now doesn't sit well with me. Letting go of the welt will soften things up too. Still open to ideas.
Please excuse the picture ordeal, been pulled in several directions today....
Title: Re: Consultation from members
Post by: MinUph on February 26, 2012, 06:18:49 pm
Fingers,
  I'm not clear why you want to change the design of the zipper. Maybe centering it would be nice but leaving the curve makes the shape of the. Does the back sit on top of the seat cushion? Ot behind it? I would guess on top and this will show the pleats somewhat even more so if the welt is not there. The top boxing must also be shaped correct?. What fabric is going on it now? Soft or unforgiving? Seems like this one will just be a sloppy, non reversible, back. No matter how you do it.
  Have fun.