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Title: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 19, 2011, 02:30:46 pm
Hello everyone!  We just made a seat cushion that is 106" x 25" x 5" with a coarse weave linen fabric provided by the customer.  It is very wrinkled from the fabric being handled during construction and it looks very bad!  We have never used this kind of fabric and never experienced wrinkles like these before.  I tried ironing them out with the fabric on the foam but wasn't able to get them out.  I'm nervous about ruining the fabric.  Do you think I'll be able to get them out by ironing with the fabric off the foam?  Should I invest in a steamer?  This is a rush job that they need by Monday!  Yikes!  Any ideas?  Thanks!  I tried putting water in the iron and I ended up with a water spot on it! I hate it when things like this happen!  Thanks, Russell.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: gene on November 19, 2011, 02:39:37 pm
A pic would be helpful. You say the wrinkles are the result of handling the fabric. If that is the case, steam may very easily get them out.

I use steam a lot. Test a scrap of fabric first. My big steam generator is an iron I bought from Wal Mart for about $15.00. It has an automatic shut off and the main feature is that I can steam with the iron in a vertical position.

And yes, I too do need to make sure water does not spill out the iron onto the fabric.

Do you have the foam covered with poly batting? If not, I think you should and this may help with the wrinkling.

I hope it's a 'steam' issue and not a sewing issue.

Good luck.

gene

Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: bobbin on November 19, 2011, 02:45:17 pm
I don't think steaming or ironing is going to help the wrinkling.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I think coarse/loose weave fabrics are difficult, esp. when you use a walking foot machine, which naturally feeds the fabric under the needle by means of the needle bar and the feed dogs. 

If the cushion is corded I'd be willing to bet the problem arose in the application of the cording to the top and bottom.  It's really easy to pull the pieces out of shape at this step.  Generally, once the pieces are corded they are stabilized and putting the boxing on isn't really a problem.

Look carefully at the cording and see if that isn't wavey or uneven.  If it is, there's your problem.  Remove it and reapply, trying not to pull the pieces.  I would check the thread tension and loosen it up, trying some stitch samples on the bias of some scrap fabric.  Oftentimes a longer stitch will help you, too. 

Hope this helps. 
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: sofadoc on November 19, 2011, 02:55:32 pm
Maybe I'm reading your problem a little different from Gene and Bobbin. Are the wrinkles more like puckers along the corded seams? Or are they ordinary wrinkles out in the middle of the cushion? If they are out in the middle, steaming should help. You could always try one from Wally World over the weekend, and return it if it doesn't work.
If they ARE puckers along the seams, then the advice that Gene and Bobbin gave should help.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 19, 2011, 03:26:53 pm
They are wrinkles out in the middle.  There is no cording.  It is a 3" thick foam cushion double-wrapped with 3/4 polyester batting.  I'm not talking about puckers.  It's similar to "crocking" and is everywhere.  I can go to Walmart tomorrow and buy a steamer and try that.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: MinUph on November 19, 2011, 04:14:25 pm
A trick I've used many times is take white sheet material. Pillow case or such. Wet this really wet but not dripping and lay it on the piece then iron this with a hot iron. It tends to do more than and iron or steam alone. But be sure to always use a test scrap first.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: kodydog on November 19, 2011, 04:23:38 pm
Crocking? Had to look that one up.

Crocking is simply the transfer of color from a fabric onto another white test fabric. The more color is transferred, the more the fabric "crocks". The preferred testing will be done by AATCC Test Method 8, which is linear crocking. The Rotary Method, AATCC Test Method 116 will be used if necessary for patterns and stripes.

Sounds like the fabric is flawed or the die is not set.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: JuneC on November 19, 2011, 04:27:26 pm
Paul, you read my mind.  I have watched many times while my mom "sprinkled" the laundry, rolled it up, then ironed (back before irons had any kind of steam feature.  The use of an ironing cloth will greatly reduce the creases.  (Sprinkling was the dampening of fabric using a spray bottle).  When I have to iron a tablecloth or something stubborn today, I still use this method.  

Russell, do exactly as Paul suggests - take a thin cotton fabric (maybe a handkerchief), wet it thoroughly, wring it out, spread it over the linen, and press with a medium hot iron.  Move the wet fabric around.  When it's dry, wet it again, repeat.   I've always done this to "set" a seam on clothing.  It works a treat on wool suits.  

June
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 19, 2011, 04:31:17 pm
The fabric looked fine when it came off the roll.  It just got all crinkley during the sewing process.  I like the idea of a damp rag but I'm very nervous about getting water stains on it.  I guess if I ring it out real well it might be safe.  I was trying to iron it ON the foam because I thought if I ironed it first and then put it back on the foam, it would just be wrinkly again.  Maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe I should try that (with the damp pillowcase that is).
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 19, 2011, 04:35:08 pm
Okay June.  I'll try this in the morning.  Sounds like a safe thing to try.  I sure appreciate everyone's help!  WE moved our shop from Florida to Maine in July and we are finding that there is a need for more residential work than boat work (time of year I guess).  We have been doing a lot of slipcovers, curtains and pillows.  I may need your advice again real soon!
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: sofadoc on November 19, 2011, 04:49:28 pm
There's also this stuff:
http://www.rochfordsupply.com/shop/Adhesives_and_Sprays/Miscellaneous/Spring_Mist/index.html
A fine mist over the entire cushion works best (less chance of leaving a ring on light colored fabrics). Brush with a small whisk broom after applying.
Wal-Mart has a similar product called Downey Wrinkle Release
It's on the same shelf as fabric softener.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Mike8560 on November 19, 2011, 05:14:03 pm
Russel certisn colors of sunbrella. As you sew it Nd crimps it on the table to get it under rhebneedle  end up with wrinkle marks. You know the cadet grey  aquamarine.  I had some Frey tbs bad thees wrinkle marks and out thenpieces in the washer and they dissapeered. Sound like pauls trick will work kids what mine did with the water only more extreem
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: MinUph on November 19, 2011, 05:52:06 pm
Leave the cushion filled when you press it.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 19, 2011, 06:12:44 pm
okay.  Will do!  Thanks!  I'll let everyone know how it went!
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Mike8560 on November 19, 2011, 07:06:08 pm
Tussle your in rockland right? I was just wat big a new show on tv antique dealer who winter I. Cape coral fl over my way and summer in rockland   I never made it  last wells when I was in new England but it looks  real nice !   Cold but nice  ;)
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: DBR1957 on November 20, 2011, 05:39:14 am
Lesson learned - Never forget this and don't be afraid to put it
on a contract and have the customer sign it.

"Not responsible for end product and no warranty when using customer
supplied materials."

Life lesson learned -

Always charge double for "rush" jobs. Something always goes wrong
and you spend twice as much time doing it.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: DBR1957 on November 20, 2011, 05:46:29 am
Just a thought here. I've used some coarse weave fabrics and they all
seem to have had a heavy coating on the back. This was to help it
keep it's body. With handling the backing would crinkle and heavy
white lines would show up at fold creases.

Not to be insulting but you might want to check that you didn't flip the
inside and outside of the fabric. It's probably happened to all of us. In
a rush it would be easy to do because the coating isn't always visibly
obvious.

Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 20, 2011, 08:29:13 am
I got up this morning and tried ironing with the wet cloth idea and it took most of the wrinkles out!  Thanks for everyone's help with this!  This is a designer who is going to feed us a ton of work over the winter and I want our first jobs with her to be perfect!  Actually, I want all of our jobs to be perfect!  Again, I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: sofadoc on November 20, 2011, 08:33:39 am
You know, odds are that if that material wrinkled that easily (while working with it), it's going to wrinkle when they sit on it anyway.
It sounds like you've done all you can do with some crappy COM.
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: wind_rose_2 on November 20, 2011, 09:25:50 am
Regarding the water stain mentioned..do not use tap water as it may have a high lime /salt content use only distilled water for steaming..it helps keep the steamer clean too.
Dave
Title: Re: Help! Cushion is wrinkled!
Post by: Pegasus2007 on November 20, 2011, 01:17:46 pm
Thanks Dave.  We actually have a $3000.00 water filtration system that makes our tap water as good or better than bottled water.  With the cloth between the iron and the cushion, I hope I won't have to worry about spots.