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Title: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 24, 2011, 06:43:49 am
Welli went to install  some bolsters this morning I finnished yesterday late
I had toreach into holes under the gunnelS to install some nuts.
I instelled the rear one about 6 nutsthats was ok then I did the starboard side 3 nuts. I wD working on the 1st one when a wasp fell out of the hole about the size of my hand.
I was laying on myback   He landed on my lip and stung me.
Now I look like Louie Armstrong
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mojo on September 24, 2011, 07:30:03 am
Dang, that had to hurt. I guess you could always find a pretty woman and have her kiss the sting to make it better. :)

I got stung while on top of my coach one day. I was up there 13 ft in the air dancing around like an idiot while trying to get away from a couple that were still flying around while trying to keep from falling off. I am sure my neighbors got a kick out of it.

I hate bee's and wasps.

Chris
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: fragged8 on September 24, 2011, 12:28:14 pm
oh man ! i bet that really hurt. i hope you get better soon.

Rich
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Pegasus2007 on September 24, 2011, 12:49:29 pm
Ouch!!!!!!  I am scared to death of them!  I am always looking up under there first to make sure there aren't any.  Also when taking off sail covers!  They love nesting in those!  My lip hurts just thinking about it!
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 24, 2011, 01:09:53 pm
Ll the swelling is going down it's alot  better now
I'd out up a pic but you'd all laught  to death ;)
pegsssus I usuly lily but this was a small hole only big enough to fit my hand through the. I had to turn to reach the nut.  I meen I've been stung befor riding motorcycle and all but I've never got it right on my lips.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: scottymc on September 24, 2011, 02:47:14 pm
So Mike do you talk like you type now? :P
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Peppy on September 24, 2011, 06:32:09 pm
Quote from: scottymc on September 24, 2011, 02:47:14 pm
So Mike do you talk like you type now? :P


ZING!

Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 24, 2011, 07:07:41 pm
let me tell you sfter my stroke ive been talking bad enough but after my lips all sweel up i just about couldnt make a sound
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: scottymc on September 24, 2011, 11:08:34 pm
Are they the european wasp, we are starting to get a lot here. Very nasty
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: fragged8 on September 25, 2011, 03:12:30 am
we have have a boat shed and a dingy shed at out yacht club.

over the weekend I had to go into the Dingy shed and found someone
has stored some polystyrene in the roof space.
And there was a huge wasp nest inside the bag of poly, needless to say i got
out of there PDQ.

someone else can deal with that :-)

Rich
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Darren Henry on September 25, 2011, 08:36:00 am
I feel for ya man. We were deployed in an area that had alot of those little yellow jackets once and one got inside my pop can unseen. Do not confuse unseen and unnoticed.Mercifully these little goobers leave a lump the size of a small marble cut in half but it only last a couple of hours.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: BigJohn on September 25, 2011, 11:07:33 am
Due to my Atrial Fibrillation last summer when I got stung by several bees it sent me to the emergency room with a pulse over 160
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 25, 2011, 01:35:09 pm
that had to be a big surprise
darren thinking your gona geet a nice cold drink and..........
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mojo on September 26, 2011, 06:00:03 am
Quote from: BigJohn on September 25, 2011, 11:07:33 am
Due to my Atrial Fibrillation last summer when I got stung by several bees it sent me to the emergency room with a pulse over 160


My little brother had to always have an injection kit with him. He was deathly allergic to them.

Chris
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: RocketmanMH1 on September 26, 2011, 12:04:36 pm
Sorry to hear about your misfortune,  If any of you guys and gals want to hear it I can tell you how to make a gadget that will eliminate your pain and fear of any stinging creature.   I became allergic to stings about 20 yrs ago, after two trips to the hospital for shock and not to mention the bills for the e room, and time wasted sitting in there for hours to make sure I don't have secondary reactions, I started looking for an alternative to the epi pen and benadryl.   I found it !!!!!!I cant guarantee that it works on every person 100 percent of the time,but I can say that it has worked 100% of the time that I have used it on me and my friends. You have to look at a sting in a technical way and have an open mind to accept what I will tell you, until you get stung and try it and then you will be singing it's praises.  If anybody on this board has one of these  they will likely chime in and report of its amazing effectiveness. I'm not going to go into detail about this unless I get some response to this post because it will take a little time to describe in detail.   If you want to hear it let me know.


  Mike
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: kodydog on September 26, 2011, 05:31:32 pm
Rocketman your killing me here. I haven't been stung in years and like Darren it usually goes away in a few hours. But I'm dying to know what you have.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Darren Henry on September 26, 2011, 06:17:14 pm

when Mom and Dad were teens; the farm cure for a bee sting,etc... was a chewed up tobacco poultis. Eating tobacco, the end off your cigar,pipe tobacco--- chew it to a fine paste and dress it onto the sting to extract the poison.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: gene on September 26, 2011, 07:16:02 pm
Let's take bets! I bet rocketman posts a link to a V i a g r a   site.

Hey, if you type the above "V" word without any spaces between the letters, just like you would normally type it, it will be deleted from your post when you save the post. Kool!

More people are killed by bee stings in all of North America than by any other animal, sea animal, or insects. It's the allergic reaction: often causing the throat to swell up.

The mosquito kills more people world wide than any other living thing.

So, the next time a brown bear is gaining ground on your sorry a@@, just remember that it could be a lot worse.

gene
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Peppy on September 26, 2011, 07:23:37 pm
I go for preemptive medicine, I cut them in half with my shears. Seems they're not afraid of the snips and don't mind to much being cut in half. I've found many dead (thankfully) hives, never found live ones. Only good thing about winter I guess.

I want to hear this secretive sting cure. Lay it on me.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 26, 2011, 09:45:57 pm
 heard baking soda in a payste rub it on the sting draws out the venom or whatever
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: RocketmanMH1 on September 27, 2011, 02:02:17 pm
Well I guess if I save three people from the pain and anguish I have been through, I guess it will be worth it. O k I know some of you are going to cry BS on this one but I KNOW!!!!!!! THIS !!!!!!!! WORKS!!!!!!!.   First of all you need to know how it works more so than why.... A sting  is just an injection of venom as a self defense tool for the wasps and other stinging critters.  The venom is made up of compounds found in the system of all stingers, they all vary from region to region but their main component is protein......The most effective way to break down this compound is electricity,   I know , I know just be patient here....   It doesn't have to be a high voltage,  This gadget you can get at any farm store or its equivalent.  You go to the store and get a little thing called a grill igniter..... not the kind with the flame on the end ::) ::).  You need to get the little one that is built into most gas grills today that makes the little arc :o.   Then take a piece of copper wire bend it around the little end with the attachment threads make it wrap around two or three times and slide or screw it on until it makes good contact with the ground lug coming out of the side...then make a 90 degree bend towards the little end that makes the spark, bend that end so that it makes a little circle or square that is flush with the shocker end , but not touching it, when you push the little clicker button this will send a minuscule arc to the copper wire,  the object is to place the copper wire ring over the sting and press the button so the current goes through the affected area,  I know some of you guys are saying who wants to go through all that trouble for a little sting and what about the pain of the shock.  Well its nothing more than a tickle and the people that are allergic will definitely know its worth it    if they try it. I used to run a pest control route during some slow times and I used this for me and any of my customers that had been stung, Some of the stings only took one pop from this gadget some took as many as five, but never more than five, I was just stung two weeks ago on my foot by some unidentified flying object and it took three pops, within seconds the pain is gone...I don't mean starting to feel better, I mean gone!!!!!!!!  Within min. the swelling is going down. I can't relay in words how good it feels to know that I won't have to go to the hospital again for anaphylactic shock. This device has changed my life.  I may get aggressive and try to learn how to post a pic. of mine so you all can see one..


Mike
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: gene on September 27, 2011, 05:41:37 pm
Rich is talking about the swelling going down. Obviously I lost the bet in thinking that he was going to put up a link to a v i a g r a site.

I did a quick google search and there are folks all over the world who use the same treatment on bee, snake, and scorpion bites. Absolutely amazing. I learn something new every day.

I wonder if my dog's electric collar that I use when I take him for walks would work? I have never felt the shock, but my wife says it's like a static electric charge you get off a metal surface. It certainly gets my dogs' attention.

Rich, I wonder if you got stung, could you drag your feet across a carpeted room and then touch the stung area to a metal surface? Would a static electric charge be enough to do the trick?

Thank for the info.

gene
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: kodydog on September 27, 2011, 06:02:00 pm
I once had a Labrador Retriever that would not obey. I joined a dog training club and attended 3 beginner classes. The dog knew the commands but refused to respond to them. I bought a remote electric training collar but before I used it on the dog I tried it on myself. Static shock is a good description. The collier changed the dogs attitude. And the training saved his life once.

I imagine Mikes invention is a tad more powerful but in an emergency I'd take the hit.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Darren Henry on September 27, 2011, 06:27:47 pm
I totally buy into Mike's "secret",but I believe it has more to do with overloading the nerve endings with more electricity than they run on than anything else. We've all heard of people who suffer extreme trauma and comment on the lack of pain, yet a paper cut hurts like heck. Once the nervous system has been stimulated to a certain point , it just dis-engages for a while. This would pre-empt  swelling and allow a normal blood flow which would "wash away" the toxins IMHO. I'll have to ask my sister the nurse, but from what I remember of university-- makes more sense than dissolving protein in 30 seconds.

[triangle of three dots] given that the above is true: the stimulus would have to be administered to  a limited number of neurons to be effective. Leaning on the electric fence or hugging your dog on his way out of the yard is questionably effective. 8) 
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: kodydog on September 27, 2011, 06:39:05 pm
Sunday mornings I like to listen to the Garden Rebel on local FM station. He is a certified landscape designer and gets stung on a regular basis. He swears by this product,

http://www.stopthesting.com/

Check out the video.
They make no clames as to medical emergancies but if I were one of you boat guys, sticking your hands into tight places, I'd keep a bottle of this in the truck.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: JuneC on September 27, 2011, 06:52:34 pm
Darren, I'd bet it doesn't dissolve the protein, but probably cooks it.  It's in such miniscule quantities that they body can then dispose of it.  Sounds very plausible to me. 

June
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: gene on September 27, 2011, 07:48:57 pm
Mike, I have no idea why I kept calling you Rich.

I've known several folks who did not leave their house without a bee kit.



Kodydog: I have a yellow lab. Every two months or so he starts to ignore my commands. He will begin to hesitate when I call him. The hesitations get longer, and longer, and eventually he will totally ignore me. I push the 'nick' button on his shock collar and he is obedient for another 2 months or so. Then it starts over again. He is a very intelligent dog.
   I once meant to push the 'nick' button and I pushed the 'buzz' button which is about 2 or 3 seconds long. I hadn't checked the setting and it had accidentally bend turned to 100. My dog jumped off the ground. I felt really bad. I told my wife about it and she said, "Good for him!" I'm glad us husbands don't have to wear a shock collar.

gene
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: RocketmanMH1 on September 27, 2011, 10:35:23 pm
It is amazing how many opinions can come to light on a subject such as this. I will be honest with everyone... I don't care exactly how it works I just know it works fast and reliably for me , as well as many people in my family and friends.  In an earlier post someone said it could be used for snake bites also,  this is true, a friend of mine was on a mission trip in mexico about four hours from medical care when he was bitten by a rattlesnake. He keeps these poppers with him at all times for any such emergency, in addition to these he keeps a (throttled down) for lack of a better term , taser with him that has been reduced to 25,000 volts.  This one is used on snake bites and severe stings.  Anyway he carefully removed himself from the snakes area and proceded to pull up his pants leg to see how bad it was, pressed the area around the bite and knew that he had been injected with venom. He claims to have not panicked but I know I would have.  So he says he hits the bite 10 to 20 times and cleans it with supplies from his first aid kit, and just sits and waits to find out if it works or not, It does and he walks the 4to 5 miles back to his truck without any negative effects.   As far as I'm concerned it nothing shy of a miracle for me to have found out about this gadget, not many people know about this from what I see on the internet, I'm just glad I don't have to deal with out of date,$ 35.00 epi pens anymore.



Mike
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: kodydog on September 28, 2011, 06:30:49 am
Quote from: gene on September 27, 2011, 07:48:57 pm

   I once meant to push the 'nick' button and I pushed the 'buzz' button which is about 2 or 3 seconds long. I hadn't checked the setting and it had accidentally bend turned to 100. My dog jumped off the ground. I felt really bad. I told my wife about it and she said, "Good for him!" I'm glad us husbands don't have to wear a shock collar.

gene


Geez Gene! Don't give the ladies any ideas. I'll never be able to ignore my wife again.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Grebo on September 30, 2011, 08:20:30 am
Wasps, reminds me of our recent holiday. Had the two dogs in the van driving around Switzerland. All of a sudden there's this frantic snapping sound from the back, WTF ?  We pull over real quick & I jumps in the back with the dogs. There is a Bee dead? on the seat & one dog is still snapping her teeth. So I grabs her muzzle & opens her mouth, caught sight of something, the stinger I guess, sticking out of the inside of a cheek & pulls it out quick.
Well apart from pukking up soon as we stopped she was fine just walked about with a thick lip for the rest of the day.  ;D

Suzi
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 30, 2011, 01:22:33 pm
Peakin' of dogs this is GiGi ny little bishon well she's fat at 18 pounds
I've got a glass room out back and she like to bark at the window at geekos and bike passing on the bridge over the canal. Iv egot this little bird house looking item that emits a little high freqiluency noise when she doese.  I just have to fake turning it on And she shuts up.
(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi782.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy102%2FMike8560%2FBLue%2520Dolphin%25201%2Fphoto-13-1.jpg&hash=81e804239b041d9af85662e30467d5eb)
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Allan on September 30, 2011, 02:58:44 pm
Mike

I would be interested to know what that bird house item is
I have a little yapper too

Allan
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Darren Henry on September 30, 2011, 04:34:48 pm
QuoteWell apart from pukking up soon as we stopped she was fine just walked about with a thick lip for the rest of the day.


Buddy did that with some wasps years ago. Poor old bugger's face swole up to the point that I sat up to make sure his airway (or at least his nose) didn't close up. Twice we have had to extract rib bones from between his top rear teeth. One person cannot hang onto 26 pounds of wigged out border collie, hold the jaws that can ( er well could then) grind up a T-bone in 10 minutes, reach in and pry out a bone. But the worst one was when he licked the skunk. I just about ruined my trousers. I was in my work closet tooling some belts when the old lady announces; "Darren, there's something wrong with Buddy". Immediate flash back to the agony our lab had recently gone through before he died of rat poisoning. If there was a 29" and under instep category for the sprint, I'd be in the record books. He's frothing at the mouth like he just ate a squirt of toothpaste, "not in a good humour", and his face is slightly swollen. Did I mention there were skunks (most common carriers of rabies in this part of Canada) living under the house our apartment was in? 'Course after the "issues" around Bear's death I've got zero confidence in the local vet, so I'm not going to call her. Her answer to everything is "well put it down it's not a cat" ,anyway. So I call old Doc Scheinder in Dryden going " uhmm--- how fast can rabies set in?"  As we're talking Buddy takes a drink of water and Doc asks to me to smell his breath. Winnie picked up the phone shortly after I do and told him that "yes his breath smelt so bad of skunk that I had fallen off the chair and that once she had administered the glass of milk  as prescribed, she'd drag me out onto the patio for some air". I guess no one told him which side is okay for a white patch on a black floor dweller (I've just described my dog) , and which side means you  shouldn't try to butt sniff.

:D A Friday funny today---- a "bit of tension" back then.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: Mike8560 on September 30, 2011, 08:00:35 pm
Quote from: Allan on September 30, 2011, 02:58:44 pm
Mike

I would be interested to know what that bird house item is
I have a little yapper too

Allan


here it is Allen I bought mine at walmart but here it is at k mart
http://m.kmart.com/productdetails.do?partNumber=029W244640110001P&sid=KDx20070926x00003c
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: RocketmanMH1 on March 13, 2012, 06:26:37 am
Sorry to bring up an old one, but my gadget worked again yesterday for my nephew who is highly allergic to stings. Just thought some might like to hear of another good result.
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: CKKC on March 13, 2012, 01:26:44 pm
Sounds like a winner to me Rocketman.  I'm gonna make one!
Title: Re: Whatch out for wasps
Post by: RocketmanMH1 on March 13, 2012, 03:31:36 pm
I promise you won't regret it!