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Title: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: fragged8 on September 06, 2011, 11:58:17 am
these guys are very very good at what they do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoFUU5z-hXQ&feature=BFa&list=ULIZiFc7zinP4&lf=mfu_channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoFUU5z-hXQ&feature=BFa&list=UL6QP41vD1vdY&lf=mfu_channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu32IJ2wz3I&feature=BFa&list=ULOoFUU5z-hXQ&lf=mfu_channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Ub647i-1U&feature=BFa&list=ULwu32IJ2wz3I&lf=mfu_channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2zLFHAr_Jk&feature=BFa&list=UL_dnkXDpnnFU&lf=mfu_channel

Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: gene on September 06, 2011, 01:24:14 pm
It's interesting how different things catch some folks attention, and not others.

I am always amazed when I see people using power tools without eye protection.

Interesting videos. Thanks for posting them.

gene

Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Peppy on September 06, 2011, 06:55:20 pm
See gene I noticed the emaculate and organized shop. But then I never were safety glasses. Unless you count my fancy sunglasses. But then they cost so much I usually take them off if I'm doing something dangerous.

Where are those guys? Washington/ Oregon? Wonder if there's a Canadian division.
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on September 06, 2011, 07:39:34 pm
Nice videos, really.  Makes me feel right at home!  I used to be in and out of shops like that all the time, same thing, but real messey!
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: slodat on September 07, 2011, 02:46:55 am
Who are they?
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Therapy on September 07, 2011, 04:05:55 am
Mailing Address:
Iverson's Design
P.O. Box 11398
Olympia, WA 98508


http://www.iversonsdesign.com/crew.html
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: fragged8 on September 07, 2011, 11:51:42 am
i think their workshop is Seattle.

Rich
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Peppy on September 08, 2011, 07:47:17 am
http://www.iversonsdesign.com/NOTE_To_Fabricators.html

QuoteThe unique ornamental appearence and design features of Iverson's canvas dodger design is protected by law.  Any attempt to copy, reproduce or implement ideas of our design is punishable by law and Iverson's Design will take legal action to protect our ideas.  We understand the pride that comes from producing a quality product and respect the ideas developed by other fellow marine canvas fabricators by not copying their design.  We kindly ask for your respect to our canvas dodger design by refraining from trying to copy or implement ideas of our design.  Thank you for your consideration.


Spoilsports. What about imitation being the sincerest form of flattery? I think they're just chicken.
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: JuneC on September 08, 2011, 08:00:26 am
They do beautiful work, but I believe they'd have a hard time proving that someone copied their design.  There's only so many ways someone can make a dodger.  It's bound to happen that someone has a similar way of producing a dodger who's never even seen their work. 

June
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Peppy on September 08, 2011, 05:56:20 pm
Quote from: needles eye on September 08, 2011, 09:19:52 am
Yep, reckon their legal claptrap is a mere shadow of their craftsmanship. They're pretty hot.


Well lets see, eh? Count down to a cease and desist order...

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1020.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf328%2Fpeppypower%2FThe%2520Filthy%2520Oar%2FBaton%2520Bimini%2Fth_P9080008-1.jpg&hash=df978086ab11149f5f9479d135b15e91) (http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/peppypower/The%20Filthy%20Oar/Baton%20Bimini/?action=view&current=P9080008-1.jpg)

Alea jacta est, ect. ad infinitum.

Personally, I'd love for somebody to copy my things. I'd love to see them make my things better, or in the worst case, I'm not afraid to learn from somebody else's mistakes!
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Mojo on September 09, 2011, 03:43:34 am
I have delved a bit in copyright and patent law with former clients. I believe that their dodgers would fall under patent law as they are not music, literary works or art.

Since it is part of a manufacturing process I believe they would fall under patent law. This would mean a very expensive patent for each design which I highly doubt. I had a client spend $ 30 K for one tool design. They are not cheap.

Chris



Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: fragged8 on September 09, 2011, 04:49:33 am
i'm not sure how it works in the US but i doubt they would get a patent
in the Uk as they are only reproducing something already available
with materials so they haven invented anything new, just better looking.

Rich
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Peppy on September 10, 2011, 09:21:36 am
Needles- I meant I threw the dice and started the game. Not that I'd cast dies or threaded holes. I normally try to eschew obfuscation, apologies.

You said;
Quote from: needles eye on September 09, 2011, 11:59:21 am
In the spirit of good will should we not send some photo captures  to Olympia? 


You mean something like this?

(https://forum.upholster.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1020.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf328%2Fpeppypower%2FThe%2520Filthy%2520Oar%2FSpray%2520Dodger%2Fth_mt-olympus-02-500-1-1.jpg&hash=bbafa548fc2d44741260f5f39303dbaa) (http://s1020.photobucket.com/albums/af328/peppypower/The%20Filthy%20Oar/Spray%20Dodger/?action=view&current=mt-olympus-02-500-1-1.jpg)

ps- Flax is where it's at, man.
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: JuneC on September 10, 2011, 05:40:52 pm
Peppy, I think you should patent dingle ball fringe on bimini's  8)  U gonna get upset if I put some on mine?  Or must I pay a royalty? 

June
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: byhammerandhand on September 10, 2011, 06:31:16 pm
Does this follow the rule, "Never use a large word when a diminutive one will do?"

Quote from: Peppy on September 10, 2011, 09:21:36 am
I normally try to eschew obfuscation, apologies.

Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: Peppy on September 12, 2011, 04:18:53 am
June, if you want to put dingle balls on your boat I'll buy them for you.
Title: Re: found some vids of the Iversons guys..
Post by: R.A.F. CaNvAs on September 14, 2011, 04:10:01 pm
O yeah them Iversons guys do make a dandy dodger.
Don't think I'll be copying the Sooo many rows of stitching tho'  , Not because he has some kind of kooky copyright . But it must leak like a sieve .
Wonder if the boat is top heavy after they put all that steel work and struts all over.
Just how many workers and how many times does it take to pattern a bimini..?
Then when finished  show the client what clowns you are and how many attempts you had !!!
As for the crazy cushion lady with her clothes pegs holding her half sewn cushions together and going to the boat with the foam.... that got me giggling.   
But they must be good if they are on the sunbrella website.... Yeah right. :-[
That must have been a two month job with 4 guys in the on going series , What must the cost have been?
ouch !