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Title: Tool Troubles
Post by: jojo on January 26, 2014, 04:57:29 pm
So there's a screwdriver bit stuck in the collar of my cordless Makita driver/drill. I've tried pulling on it with a pliers (while pulling the collar). I've tried cursing; that didn't work either. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: JuneC on January 26, 2014, 05:12:06 pm
How is the bit held in?  Is there a chuck or is it magnetic? 

June
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: MinUph on January 26, 2014, 05:48:10 pm
liquid wrench if its rusted in. A small drilled hole and a screw if its broken in there.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: jojo on January 26, 2014, 06:52:54 pm
It's the type where you pull the collar forward, place the bit in, and release the collar then it's locked. It's definitely not rusty; it's stored indoors and used often. The last time I replaced the bit was less than a month ago.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: MinUph on January 26, 2014, 07:07:54 pm
Then the little bearings are stuck. Liquid wrench and a couple pf taps should free them up. Or maybe the bit got twisted slightly in the chuck and is stuck that way. turning the bit while taping might also help. Lube the bearings up when you get it out.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: SteveA on January 27, 2014, 04:39:38 am
Is it stuck in the jaws ?
SA
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: Darren Henry on January 27, 2014, 04:54:40 am
I'd guess it's twisted  a bit. My impact is famous for that. Put the bit in the vise and run the drill the opposite direction i.e if you were putting a screw in last try reverse or vise versa.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: brmax on January 27, 2014, 07:44:56 pm
If the collar still moves about the same as when normaly releasing it, I would tap around the side of the collar with a mallet. I have none but I was told patience is good for these times.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: sofadoc on January 28, 2014, 12:23:27 pm
Speaking of cordless screwdrivers. I have a couple of Makita 18V drill/drivers, and a circular saw, that use the same battery. I end up buying new batteries about once a year, and 2 of them cost almost as much as a whole new rig.

Does anybody have a brand/model that they get longer life out of?

I hate to buy off-brand, or clearance-priced cordless tools, because I never know how long the replacement batteries will be available.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: byhammerandhand on January 28, 2014, 01:15:29 pm
I've had a couple of Makita 9.6V models and went through the batteries way quicker than I thought.

I've had some Metabo batteries rebuilt at Batteries+Plus or Battery Giant, and they've done OK, but not great.

My current "user" is a Ridgid (captive brand at Home Depot).   While it did not get top reviews, they have an LSA (lifetime service agreement) that covers battery replacements for the life of the tool, as well as other "expendables" such as switches.   I'm on my third set of batteries with them.  I exchange them over the counter at a local independent factory authorized repair shop less than five miles away.   Last time I was there they told me how many batteries they replace for them and I think it was a few hundred a month.  Just be sure to diligently follow the paperwork to file for initial registration and each subsequent battery replacement and keep the paperwork.

When I bought my impact driver, I specifically looked for a corded model.   At that time Makita was the only offering.   Now I think Porter Cable also has one.  If I'm ever building a deck or something, it will run as long as I want it to.

Quote from: sofadoc on January 28, 2014, 12:23:27 pm
Speaking of cordless screwdrivers. I have a couple of Makita 18V drill/drivers, and a circular saw, that use the same battery. I end up buying new batteries about once a year, and 2 of them cost almost as much as a whole new rig.

Does anybody have a brand/model that they get longer life out of?

I hate to buy off-brand, or clearance-priced cordless tools, because I never know how long the replacement batteries will be available.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: JuneC on January 28, 2014, 05:47:17 pm
I've got 3 18V Craftsman cordless, an 18V Craftsman impact driver and an 18V right-angle drill/driver all using the same battery.  I've had batteries regularly last me 3 or 4 years, depending on how heavily I use them (a LOT!).  I have one I'm about to throw out that has I marked with an 01 date on the bottom - I mark the date put into service in sharpie on the bottom label.  These are all NiCad.  I'm not buying them anymore.  I want to upgrade to Lithium Ion for longer use between charges.  Like razors, the tool is given away and they make money on the battery/blade.

June

Oops, sorry.  that was a typo.  It's a 2010, not 2001 battery. 
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: baileyuph on January 30, 2014, 06:05:39 am
Two drills - Porter Cable Lithium - have 4 batteries that are slighly over 4 years old.  One is a bit shorter on the charge but will still out last my cadmium Black and Decker.  All are 18 volt powered.  That is three 18 volt drill/drivers.

I just bought Porter cable Lithium 20 volt.(two batteries)

I also bought one Black and Decker lithium 20 volt with drill kit complete.  Haven't used the 20 volt purchases yet.  The PC batteries while one - possibly two are a little weaker just won't die.  I can saw wood and have a nice light (very handy).

I use the heck out of these cordless, they make you money.  I use one to drill and the other as a driver and never switch bits, that cost you time and energy.  Well, the 18 volt B & D stays ready with a bit also, it is used at the workbench or in car interirors.

Doyle
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: babock on January 30, 2014, 08:15:34 am
I go on ebay and buy new NiCd batteries to rebuild my own DeWalt battery packs. I am not convinced yet about the Lithium tools. Too many bad reviews on Amazon.

For example, the batteries to rebuild my 7.2V Dewalt screwdriver cost $12. Probably higher capacity than what it came with too.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: forsailbyowner on January 30, 2014, 02:21:13 pm
Back in my former life as a building contractor i found the worst thing you could do to a battery is not use it. My drivers which got daily use and were cycled multiple times every day lasted for years. The sawzall which was was used occasionally would need batteries all the time, it seemed like every time I went to use it. I only used dewalt power tools.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles - Update
Post by: jojo on February 12, 2014, 12:13:56 pm
So nothing worked. Oiled the hell out of it, tapped it from the side in different directions with a hammer to try and loosen...bit never moved. So I took the tool apart and ordered the part that holds the bit from  ereplacmentparts.com. (there was no access hole in the back of this part so I couldn't pound the bit out from the back, which was my original plan.) Cost is $10 total, which is less than 10% of the cost of the drill. Nothing is ever easy.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: JuneC on February 12, 2014, 08:18:35 pm
Well poo!  That just isn't any fun at all.  Glad you can fix it up for a small fee though. 

I'd still be tempted to try some method of extraction and keep the parts for spares.  Did you try heat?  I assume the metals of the chuck and stuck bit are different.  Heating and rapid cooling might make them loosen up as one heats and expands or shrinks more than the other. 

June
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: west coast on February 13, 2014, 09:43:46 pm
I to have switched all my drills to Ridgid and the only reason was the service agreement on the batteries. I have replaced one already and it was defective so that would have been a waranty issue anyway (under a year old)but over the years I can't see how you can go wrong when the battery supply will be free. I had lots of makita,dewalt drills that I really liked but had to chuck them when the bats went. I even bought a Ridgid drill flashlight combo for the fifth wheel but use the batteries in the off season in the shop that keeps them revolving and not dying by not using.
Title: Re: Tool Troubles
Post by: kodydog on February 14, 2014, 07:39:27 pm
I have a Sioux air drill with a collar just like you describe. When I put a bit with flat or Phillips on both ends it will get stuck every time. To get it unstuck, I lay the tool on my upholstery table, use my knee to hold it in place, grab the collar with pliers and tap the pliers with a hammer until the collar comes loose.

Hope this works.