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Title: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Lmc530 on July 29, 2011, 07:16:29 am
I'd like to get some opinions on the best thread for marine upholstery..

Interior seating and cushions and outdoor vinyl and canvas..

Some of the threads I'm interested in are Polymatic, Tenara and SolarFix PTFE 2000 denier thread...

It seems the Sunguard gives me more trouble than it's worth..   Thanks..
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Mojo on July 29, 2011, 08:35:27 am
I use Solarfix ( Tenara ) on all of my awnings and on exposed seams on outdoor covers, etc. It is the best thread going for marine / RV / outdoor fabrics.

Some people have said it is finicky on their machines ( tension settings ) but I have never had a problem with it. I also have never had a problem with Sunguard and use it alot. I am not real impressed with the Durabond Poly thread and have gotten several bad spools of it. I believe our shores got dumped on with cheap chinese imitations a couple years ago and is still being sold as Durabond.

Solarfix 92 or Sunguard 138 is all I use.

Chris
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Mike8560 on July 29, 2011, 09:52:53 am
I use v92 dabond white mostly   Pproblt sim to the polymatic
cor inside I woulnd worry about tenara   
Me I'd be concerned with it cutting the vinyl but I think June said she has used it on boat vinly seats ?
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Lmc530 on July 29, 2011, 11:25:26 am
Great feedback.. thanks..

What do you think works best for vinyl seating then?? 
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Mike8560 on July 29, 2011, 12:09:50 pm
V92 poly has give to it
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: bobbin on July 29, 2011, 02:00:48 pm
We use V92 polyester in the shop.  If you're working on vinyls it's always a good idea to test your tension settings, sometimes loosening it a scooch will minimize any chance of too-tight tension cutting the fabric. 

I prefer to used V69 polyester on interior work when I'm working from my own shop.  I find it "marries" better with the lighter, "furniture weight" acrylics.  And if UV isn't a factor I see no reason that "bigger is better". 
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: JuneC on July 29, 2011, 05:56:57 pm
I recently did our own Formula 280SS cockpit completely in Tenara clear monofilament, including the topstitching.  The topstitch wasn't as prominent at it might be with 138 poly, but it looked good.  What I did like about it was the fact that the thread didn't absorb dirty water so after 6 months, the thread was still clean and white.  Also, it didn't cut the vinyl at all (I used moderate tension, 1/4" sew foam and a long stitch).  We just sold the boat and replaced it with a Baja '38 Special (which, of course, needs upholstery).  Pics to come.  Man is the engine cover a maze! 

June
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Mike8560 on July 29, 2011, 06:03:04 pm
Cool June is it faster ? Twins?
Some of thoose Baja sunpads were elaborate next thing worse I've seen is a fountian  lightning ring.
I'd like to see it when you can  and the formula seats   Did you have to sell low to move it ?   
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: JuneC on July 29, 2011, 06:16:57 pm
Twin turbo diesels.  Still on the hard getting a new cooling system.  It was sorely neglected.  Supposed to cruise at 50 mph and about 20 gal per hour.  Bimini for lunch????  ;D  We'll see.  Stay tuned.  We weren't even trying to sell the Formula - it wasn't listed.  Someone saw it and said they wanted it.  Everything has a price, right?  And since we're in the business it went.  I never posted pics of the upholstery, did I...  I'll get those up tonight or tomorrow morning. 

June
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Mike8560 on July 29, 2011, 06:31:10 pm
diesels sweet and you won't have to worry about that lousy ethonal
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: fragged8 on August 01, 2011, 07:46:31 am
my step dad took the mercruiser V8's out of his bayliner and replaced with
5cyl straight Audi turbo diesels and contra props.

they are very smooth and about half the price to run, ok it doesnt do 45mph anymore
but he still gets 30+

rich
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: JanChristian on October 09, 2011, 08:04:20 am
Nautique uses GORE™ TENARA™

http://www.nautique.com/Nautiquenation/article/189 (http://www.nautique.com/Nautiquenation/article/189)
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: Grebo on October 10, 2011, 01:10:42 am
Quote from: bobbin on July 29, 2011, 02:00:48 pm

I prefer to used V69 polyester on interior work when I'm working from my own shop.  I find it "marries" better with the lighter, "furniture weight" acrylics.  And if UV isn't a factor I see no reason that "bigger is better". 


Like wise bobbin, the 92 just seems  to thick & heavy sometimes on the lighter materials.

Suzi
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: baileyuph on October 10, 2011, 05:33:35 am
69 or 92 polyester on the marine upholstery.  For covers, still searching for the best stuff.  I got some tenara and so far ok for covers and repairs.  Will see how it works out.

On the boat comments, as a non boater, I can't imagine something using 20 gallons an hour.  I suppose the rellief in cost is, you don't have to run the engines as long to get there? ;)

Doyle
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: SteveMoke on October 10, 2011, 01:20:58 pm
You took the words right out'a my mouth DB ... I thought 20 gallons per hour was a typo!
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: JuneC on October 10, 2011, 04:42:54 pm
Quote from: SteveMoke on October 10, 2011, 01:20:58 pm
You took the words right out'a my mouth DB ... I thought 20 gallons per hour was a typo!


Goodness, no!  20 GPH is just sipping fuel.  It would be double that with gas engines (at the same speed).  We'll get probably 50% better fuel consumption at idle speeds.  Have a look at offshoreonly.com for what some of the gas boats burn - and most are much smaller than 38'.  It's not unusual to burn 50 to 60 gallons per hour in a performance boat.

June
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: baileyuph on October 10, 2011, 05:39:54 pm
June, am I really understanding this;  60 times (the price of diesel) per hours?

Now we know who is making all the money.  I also know what my next stock purchase will be in.  There are boats all over and around the coast.

Lets see, how does that compare to a performance car, a real mean one?  About $50 bucks per hour, and I am assuming they run off high octane gas. 

Well, it cost to do anything, for example professional sports seats, especially if it is a world series event.

Doyle
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: JuneC on October 10, 2011, 06:38:16 pm
Actually, it's 60 times the cost of a gallon of gasoline ++ per hour.  We'll never burn that much diesel.  Also, gas on the water is about $.50 a gallon more than in a gas station.  Boats don't like ethanol and you pay a premium to buy it in a marina.  Many small boaters buy gas in the auto gas station when their boat is on a trailer but it's hard to find ethanol-free fuel.  Diesel, on the other hand, is less expensive in a marina.  There's no road tax. 

June
Title: Re: Thread for Marine Upholstery
Post by: baileyuph on October 11, 2011, 05:39:21 am
Interesting, then it is logical that tank(s) sizes on those type of boats are well over a 100 gallons.  There is a big ocean out there to be cruised.

The weight of fuel alone takes considerable fuel to lug round.

Ready for this, some of our rigs, on a trailer, will fill their ten gallon tank up and go out for a day.  Of course these are rigs that go at a much lower speed, fishing boats primarily.  However, some of these rigs do have two tanks of that size, a spare in case.  I suppose at our bigger lakes, the statistics change to much like June is painting; because, I do hear about twin engine boats (some twin V8) that relatively, do drink a lot of fuel over a weekend of boating.  Those boats much be in the 25 foot range, more or less.  I don't see these. but boaters will bring me interior pieces and covers to work on.

BTW, time to buy some oil stock!

Doyle