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Title: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on January 24, 2011, 08:16:29 am
I just bought an Engel Hot Knife and was thinking about buying the cutting foot for it.  Is it better to use the cutting foot or put a piece of formica on top of my table to cut on?

I also need two bulbs for it.  Does anyone know if they can be bought locally at somewhere like an auto parts store, or if I have to order them from a Engel wholesaler?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: JuneC on January 24, 2011, 08:40:05 am
Buy the foot.  I can't imagine using mine without it.

June
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mike8560 on January 24, 2011, 08:58:21 am
I e got the foot bit I got to say I've takenine off and just use the axe allot   
I doo have. Formica tabletop. I don't. Use it so much to actually cut the sunbrella as it leaves a ruff edge that can marr rhe boat but I ro you it more for
like cutting offzilpers or thick binding on my covers or the top of coil zip
smiley windows   Bit vet the foot you might like it it does save the table.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 24, 2011, 10:48:53 am
I'm asking everyones opinion who has the Engle cutter I sell, BUT don't have this cutting base, cutting foot type SF

Do you have one, want one, or what?

Seen here in the bottom most image; https://www.keysew.com/Demo_images/HSG-0_with cutter guide.pdf (https://www.keysew.com/Demo_images/HSG-0_with cutter guide.pdf)
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: scottymc on January 24, 2011, 12:29:28 pm
I've got one of those knives Gregg, I use a block off steel underneath when I'm cutting webbing, but being the slacker that I am I usually just burn the bench. So it would probably be a good fit for me. How much are they, I expect you would sell them much cheaper than in Australia, I've never seen one here.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: bobbin on January 24, 2011, 12:46:32 pm
I bought the foot when I purchased my Engel hot knife.  I've nearly always used it with the foot in place.  I've noticed that sometimes the knife will kick up some crumbly acrylic crap when used, usually when I try to push the knife through goods too quickly .  Usually I can fix the problem by adjusting the alignment of the blade and the foot.  My foot doesn't have the guard to keep fingers away from the knife surface.  I like that guard. 

But, that said, I want to get a piece of sheet metal around 18-24"x36-40" long to use as a cutting surface if I want to work without the foot in place.  I don't want to wreck the surfaces of my tables.  I can see that there would be applications when not having the foot in place would be handy. 

Gregg, my manual shows a variety of different cutting tips that can be added to the knife but I've never seen them offered for sale in any of the catalogues in the shop.  Do you carry them or can you get them?
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 24, 2011, 12:47:52 pm
Quote from: scottymc on January 24, 2011, 12:29:28 pm
I've got one of those knives Gregg, I use a block off steel underneath when I'm cutting webbing, but being the slacker that I am I usually just burn the bench. So it would probably be a good fit for me. How much are they, I expect you would sell them much cheaper than in Australia, I've never seen one here.


$189 with the most popular 100R cutting blade.  I haven't priced this recently, and know prices were all over the place last time I checked.  
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mojo on January 24, 2011, 04:23:12 pm
I thought I would add this here for people interested in a hot knife and wanting to save a few bucks.

Harbor freight sells a hot knife on sale for $ 19.99. Do yourself a big favor and do NOT buy it. It wont  cut Sunbrella. The wattage is to low and it does not reach a high enough temp, even at the highest setting.

I would check with Greg ( his price is the lowest I have found so far ) or your supplier or whomever for an Engle or possibly another brand ( if they make them ). The Harbor Freight knife will not cut the material we need it to cut. :)

Lesson learned.

Chris

P.S. - Has anyone ever used this type of hot knife / cutter ?

http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=HK60 (http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=HK60)
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Peppy on January 24, 2011, 05:23:24 pm
We use the blade without the foot on a piece of masonite we lay on the cutting table. Never saw the foot before actually.

Maybe thats why you have problems cutting 2 layers at once June?
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Allan on January 24, 2011, 09:39:24 pm
Scottymc

Try this mob

http://www.paskal.com.au/

Allan
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on January 25, 2011, 07:36:00 am
Quote from: Mojo on January 24, 2011, 04:23:12 pm
I thought I would add this here for people interested in a hot knife and wanting to save a few bucks.

Harbor freight sells a hot knife on sale for $ 19.99. Do yourself a big favor and do NOT buy it. It wont  cut Sunbrella. The wattage is to low and it does not reach a high enough temp, even at the highest setting.

I would check with Greg ( his price is the lowest I have found so far ) or your supplier or whomever for an Engle or possibly another brand ( if they make them ). The Harbor Freight knife will not cut the material we need it to cut. :)

Lesson learned.

Chris

P.S. - Has anyone ever used this type of hot knife / cutter ?

http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=HK60 (http://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=HK60)



Chris,

That just looks like a soldering iron to me.

Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mojo on January 25, 2011, 09:49:43 am
That's what it looks like to me too Bobby.

:)

Chris
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on January 25, 2011, 10:07:05 am
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 24, 2011, 12:47:52 pm
Quote from: scottymc on January 24, 2011, 12:29:28 pm
I've got one of those knives Gregg, I use a block off steel underneath when I'm cutting webbing, but being the slacker that I am I usually just burn the bench. So it would probably be a good fit for me. How much are they, I expect you would sell them much cheaper than in Australia, I've never seen one here.


$189 with the most popular 100R cutting blade.  I haven't priced this recently, and know prices were all over the place last time I checked.  


Gregg,

How much for just the foot for the knife?
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 26, 2011, 06:59:37 am
100R Wide angle cut blade 30mm is $40 in stock, thanks for asking. 
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Grebo on January 26, 2011, 09:05:16 am
I have the knife & bought the foot guard a couple of years ago. Handy if you want to cut without a table about but personally I get on with it better without it on. But then if I had a nice new table top I would probably persevere with it. I have a handme down white melamine table which was already covered in scars.  :'(
But I am hardly complaining it got thrown in when I bought my pfaff 545.  :P
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: scarab29 on January 26, 2011, 10:36:38 am
I bought mine with the foot. Can't imagine using it without though I remove it at times for zips and webbing. Much easier to cut material with the foot on. I blanket mosst of the covers I do and makes it easy to trim after fitting and cutting through darts , seams and multiple layers without hitting the table. Like pep , I covered my cutting tables with masonite.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on January 26, 2011, 10:38:41 am
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 26, 2011, 06:59:37 am
100R Wide angle cut blade 30mm is $40 in stock, thanks for asking. 


Dang, wish I'd asked sooner and you could have shipped it with my order to save postage.  I'll order it later.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 26, 2011, 11:26:12 am
Quote from: hdflame on January 26, 2011, 10:38:41 am
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on January 26, 2011, 06:59:37 am
100R Wide angle cut blade 30mm is $40 in stock, thanks for asking. 


Dang, wish I'd asked sooner and you could have shipped it with my order to save postage.  I'll order it later.  Thanks.


Wish I would have offered it sooner.  I don't have it on my web site yet.  I can soon I guess.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: scottymc on January 26, 2011, 12:01:37 pm
Quote from: Allan on January 24, 2011, 09:39:24 pm
Scottymc

Try this mob

http://www.paskal.com.au/

Allan

thanks mate I'll chase them up.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: rustyeod on February 10, 2011, 06:40:32 am
I dont get on here as much as I used to but Sailrite sells the bulbs as well as the engle people but they have a minimum.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on February 10, 2011, 09:33:40 am
Quote from: rustyeod on February 10, 2011, 06:40:32 am
I dont get on here as much as I used to but Sailrite sells the bulbs as well as the engle people but they have a minimum.


I found the bulbs at Sailrite after I had asked.  I just called Gregg to order the foot and I'll get the bulbs from him if he has them.  He was busy with customers when I called, I'll get him later.

Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Bob T on February 10, 2011, 10:03:19 am
Bulbs can be hard to find.  On page #2 of the Tools section of Sailrite.com they list the bulbs for $8.00 each!  That's about half of what one website wanted which was $15.95 ea. bulb.  Found them on Bulbs.com for $0.31 each.  See:

http://www.bulbs.com/espec.aspx?ID=10631&tab=tab_reviews#tab_reviews
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on February 11, 2011, 08:16:05 am
Quote from: Bob T on February 10, 2011, 10:03:19 am
Bulbs can be hard to find.  On page #2 of the Tools section of Sailrite.com they list the bulbs for $8.00 each!  That's about half of what one website wanted which was $15.95 ea. bulb.  Found them on Bulbs.com for $0.31 each.  See:

http://www.bulbs.com/espec.aspx?ID=10631&tab=tab_reviews#tab_reviews


Bob,

Thanks so much for that link!  Boy, what a difference in price.  I didn't check to see what shipping was on bulbs.com, but shipping for 2 bulbs on Sailrite would be just over $8!!  That means I would have over $20 for two little 0.31 cent bulbs!

I will definitely bookmark that website.  Think I'll go look around a little on it now! ;D  Thanks again, and once more this forum has helped me save money.

Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 11, 2011, 08:21:47 am
Quote from: hdflame on February 10, 2011, 09:33:40 am
Quote from: rustyeod on February 10, 2011, 06:40:32 am
I dont get on here as much as I used to but Sailrite sells the bulbs as well as the engle people but they have a minimum.


I found the bulbs at Sailrite after I had asked.  I just called Gregg to order the foot and I'll get the bulbs from him if he has them.  He was busy with customers when I called, I'll get him later.




Thanks for thinking of us.  I don't have them at $.31 for sure!


Gregg
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on February 11, 2011, 10:01:05 am
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 11, 2011, 08:21:47 am
Quote from: hdflame on February 10, 2011, 09:33:40 am
Quote from: rustyeod on February 10, 2011, 06:40:32 am
I dont get on here as much as I used to but Sailrite sells the bulbs as well as the engle people but they have a minimum.


I found the bulbs at Sailrite after I had asked.  I just called Gregg to order the foot and I'll get the bulbs from him if he has them.  He was busy with customers when I called, I'll get him later.




Thanks for thinking of us.  I don't have them at $.31 for sure!


Gregg


Gregg,

If it helps, I still need the foot for mine, and I've referred 2 people from the local leatherworker guild to you for a sewing machine. ;D  I emailed one of the guys a link to my Highlead and told him to ask for you.

Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Bob T on February 11, 2011, 09:31:22 pm
Gregg, similar considerations here.  When it's time to replace my servo you're the very top of the list for me.  You earned it thru your pursuit of finding and providing the very best value to your customers.  Consider that you could get bulbs from bulbs.com and sell them here for 10 times what you pay for them and still be a hero.  At any rate, I'm thinking bulbs aren't your bread and butter items.
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mojo on February 12, 2011, 06:19:54 pm
Quote from: Gregg @ Keystone Sewing on February 11, 2011, 08:21:47 am

Thanks for thinking of us.  I don't have them at $.31 for sure!

Gregg


Well buy a gross of them at 31 cents each and then resell them at 62 cents each. We all win then. You get a 100 % mark up and we get the bulbs cheaper. Now if we can get you to quit marking those machines up 1200 % we will be all set.............LOL.........:)

It is a simple solution. Sell cheap and make up for it with volume sales.

;D

Chris
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mike8560 on February 12, 2011, 07:26:53 pm
Chris it seems that's what customers think also I should work cheap and make up for it in volume trouble os I only
work so fast and it's slowing down now. :)
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: Mojo on February 14, 2011, 04:05:41 am
Everybody wants something for nothing these days. Must be the sign of the times. :)

And of course I had to take a jab at Greg. I was just looking at my calendar and realized I hadn't poked him yet this month. :)

Things are pretty much dead here Mike. It is the worst winter I have had since I started in this crazy business. I am hoping the RV Rally I am doing in April will catch me up on sales. If not then there is always next winter. :)

Chris
Title: Re: Question about Engel Hot Knife cutting surface???
Post by: hdflame on March 30, 2012, 11:35:13 am
I never did order these bulbs last year.  Somehow I ran across this post and decided to order them.

$1.86 for 6 bulbs plus $5 flat rate shipping FEDEX.  That's cheaper than I could buy 1 from Sailrite, and that doesn't include the shipping!  Heck, I couldn't hardly drive my truck to town that cheap.

I figured since it was going to cost $5 for shipping, I just ordered 4 extras, just in case.  Knowing me, I'll lose them before I need them!