I come on here to offer input, talk with others in the trade, and basically take a bit of a break from the daily crap I have to deal with as a "BUSINESS OWNER." I don't come here to be run down, called a hack and not a business ower, and told that I'm bad for the trade because I won't run my shop into the ground to give someone a job.
So, I'm gone. Maybe not for good. But maybe so. I really don't give a crap if Ihavenoname likes me or not. I don't care for the change in the attitude in the board. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's others. Either way. I reserve my blood pressure going up because of business pressures. Not from being on here.
See ya.
I hope that you change your mind. I've certainly appreciated your opinions about the upholstery business. I know that noname might seem a bit abrasive at times. But I think that he means well. I've always had the opinion that any good upholsterer can make more money working for himself (or herself) than they can working for another shop, even if they aren't particularly good at the business end.
There ARE many upholsterers (such as me) who really aren't business minded, yet they still make a living at it. Try doing that in most any other field.
You've stated in your previous posts that you "paid your dues" in the form of apprenticeship, because you had a true passion for this work. I think that you are a rare commodity in today's upholstery world. Sadly, most "new-hires" today really do just want a paycheck.
I would like to think that noname wasn't aiming any criticism directly at you. But I guess that's between you and him.
C'mon back when you're ready, you do add a lot to the discussions here.
Really stitcher_guy
When you come back tuffen up a bit. I'm new here and see some decent posts from most everyone you included. Don't let one or two posts get ya. Even if the guy was out of line which I don't know if he was or not get over it man. It's all good.
I'm sure you have allot to offer.
I've been out of the business for several years and getting back into it. I need all the fresh help I can find :D
Stitcher guy: I really hope you will reconsider, you have added so much to this board, your posts have helped me through many ordeals and many others, I am sure. If you do not come back this board will not be the same without you.
QuoteI'm sure you have allot to offer.
Good comment and thanks for your positive contributions, this is what participants appreciate, not a side show.
Participants who have been in business for many years know what is required of a business owner and each will use the methods that works best for them.
Doyle
Stitcher,
I also hope you will reconsider. I just returned the upholstery business after 20 years of doing something else. I have posted a few times asking for some direction and I have found your suggestions extreamly helpful. As stated above - You have a lot to offer. I am a member of other forums as I'm sure you are also, and there is always disagreement from members on opinions, and personality conflicts will be there also.
Have a great day
Russ
Yeah Stitcher, don't let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch.
Kyle
Yes Russ, I have noticed things can be a little tense on here at times and maybe a few comments made that were not to nice. But, in the end, it is only one persons opinion and just like rear ends, we all have one. :)
Maybe its the Marine in me but........It will be a cold day in hell before I allow one person to run me off of a forum.
Take a few breaths, relax and get your butt back here. Your a valued member here and have been a huge help.
No name:
I believe that maybe an apology is in order to not only Russ but several others who work their butt off to make a living. Making general statements and stereotyping is never a good thing.
JMHO,
Chris
Stitcher, running a business is no day at the beach, it's a lot of really hard work. And when you have employees of different skill levels that you have to keep busy it's even harder. I've always found your replies interesting and I've never had anything to do with automotive work!
The internet is a very cool thing but one thing it can't provide is intonation, body language, or a wink... and sometimes things "said" can be misconstrued (or not!). Take it with a grain of salt (about the size of kitchen table), shrug it off, and don't worry about it. You have too much to offer to just, "up and vanish".
dont get upset Russ I also enjoy your post even if i dont do autos allot of stuff is related.
And Doyle I like a slideshow pics are worth a 100s words as they say I i can see different ways to do somthing other then my own.
QuoteGood comment and thanks for your positive contributions, this is what participants appreciate, not a side show.
Slide show?
I used "side show" as an anology of different philosophies that drew the heat, on running a business.
The difference a little "l" can make.
Doyle
Come on guys there is room for everyone. That is the thing about internet forums everyone has their own opinion on things and not everyone is going to agree.
Russ you know what works for you and your environment and noname you have your ideas as well...
Agree to disagree and everyone is happy.
If you want to see some uncensored banter go check out Pirate 4x4.
Kevin
Quote from: bobbin on September 07, 2010, 10:57:57 am
The internet is a very cool thing but one thing it can't provide is intonation, body language, or a wink... and sometimes things "said" can be misconstrued (or not!).
This is probably the best point made here.
We are all good at some phase of upholstery, and we all have some interesting opinions. But none of us are professional writers. Sometimes, our intended meaning is lost on the reader.
Noname: If you're still here, from some of your early posts, you seemed bitter about a lot of things. You sometimes come off as very combattive.
From the get-go, you said that you weren't going to give out your real name and location, because you weren't sure who to trust.
Just remember, you catch a lot more flies with honey.
Quote from: bobbin on September 07, 2010, 10:57:57 am
The internet is a very cool thing but one thing it can't provide is intonation, body language, or a wink... and sometimes things "said" can be misconstrued (or not!).
Very true. There are also different social boundaries on the internet, and I think sometimes certain people end up saying things they typically wouldn't if it was face-to-face conversation.
I always enjoy reading your comments and insights too, and will miss them.
-Kelly
stitcher_guy:
I also hope you will reconsider. You have no idea of what a wealth of information you really are! I, for one, really appreciate what you have to say, even though I have never even attempted to do any auto work, unless you count restitching a strap on one of those "bra" things...LOL
You have incredible business sense and experience. The stuff you share is stuff that you just don't find in textbooks.
When the Internet was invented by Al Gore all those years ago (jkjk), I took a class in the Internet, being I was a complete idiot about such things. One thing I remember the teacher saying is that when it's in writing, you can't see the person's expression, as was mentioned before. This is so true! I think it's a good reminder for all of us. What has happened here should hopefully raise the bar on how we "behave" on the forums. I agree that Ihavenoname was pretty abrasive and I would have been angry as well.
I hope we see you on here again soon. You have been such a positive contributor in so many ways...
Just my two cents' worth!
Kathy
A bit of history, Stitcher: a few years back, many of us left here and went over to Jack Carr's site, because there were several practical jokers, and lots of extremely rude commentators. Some of us have come back, because the site seems to be policed a little better. The exchange of information on both sites is priceless to those of us in the business! Even though my focus is furniture, I still find your comments very interesting and educational. Please don't take any of the negative comments personally, no matter how they are addressed. There is room for all of us here.
one of the OLD old-timers,
Jan
Yo! Stitcherguy! Do what I do; when something pisses you off, or a thread bothers you- Scroll on, baby. Sometimes my little mouse wheel gets hot to the touch. Sorry guys, but I really don't care about a Consew 46d78g949f-vmn4id. Scroll on.
Till the day I buy one then I'll be all like, HEY HELP!!! I CAN'T THREAD MY CONSEW 6d78g949f-vmn4id!!!!!!
ps- Have I won a Tshirt yet? I really wanna go to work in another shops Tshirt. It'll give the boss piles. Do you ship to Canada?
Quote from: Peppy on September 08, 2010, 06:14:41 pm
Till the day I buy one then I'll be all like, HEY HELP!!! I CAN'T THREAD MY CONSEW 6d78g949f-vmn4id!!!!!!
I think, on all Consew models ending in vmn4id, you have to run the thread through the gangly sprocket before you wrap it around the synthesizer plate.
But I'm a little fuzzy on that model. Now, if it was a vmn3id, I could tell you for sure.
Does the stitch length have a ratcheting agitator? ???
Hello All,
I have a permanent staying/working permit in Netherlands. I have my own one man company een man zaak here and I am living in Netherlands more than 7 yrs.
A company from UK asked if my work permit allows me to work full-time in UK.
Where can I find such an information?
PS: I am Turkish citizen
Best Regards
Gokhan
Ok. Break time is over. I had a load of work to do in the shop (two weeks ago, I put in a 40-hour non-stop day to get a 41 Plymouth truck done). Had some help from a friend the last couple weeks since cleaning the shop and getting some organizing done, so feeling a bit less frazzled. He's wanting to work for me parttime. We're considering it. With his help the last two weeks we got the interior in the 41 (my wife wouldn't let me drive the 30-miles to the truck on my own after staying up. He said on the way home I passed out for about 20 minutes, LOL.). Also did two full convertible tops, tore apart a 62 Impala top. Completed an interior in a 63 Ford Galaxy, cleaned the shop and did a slew of daily work.
As for posting on here, yep, EVERYONE IS RIGHT. Just because one person does their best to ruffle feathers and be the Devil's Advocate on everything, doesn't mean I have to listen to them and put any stock whatsoever in anything they say. I've been lurking around and keeping up and noticed "hey, he left." But nope. Saw a post from him today. Oh well. Not my problem and don't really care what he has to say. As for everyone ELSE....RussW, congrats on the win with the truck you did in 08. Mike, glad that you're set up in the home shop and still busting out great projects. Mojo, COME VISIT!!! Darren, good to see you posting more regularly. Kevin, your seats in the beemer are awesome. BTW, have you gotten a call from a guy I sent to you? He was asking on another forum where to go for BMW interiors...DUHH.
Alright, I hope no one wrote me off for good. LOL, I've got WAY too much time invested in this place tossing in my two cents worth to let one bonehead ruin it. BE GOOD ALL. Peace, love and tacos.
It really p!sses me off when people use the word 'taco' in their complimentary closing!!!
Just joking!
The movie "Hoosiers" stars Gene Hackman as an old basketball coach who is hired by a small town in Indiana. The towns folk do not like the fact that he is coaching the way he wants to, instead of the way they want him to.
In one scene a townsman says to Hackman, something like: "If a man goes outside and howls at the moon, that is none of my business. But if that man comes into my living room and howls at the moon, then I am forced to do something about it."
I always look at the internet, and everything on it, as being outside. Even if I am sitting in my living room, the internet is not. So, anytime someone howls at the moon on the internet, I ignore them. They are outside.
If someone on the internet begins to bother me, then I see that as my problem. I am inviting them into my living room and I do what I can to stop that.
I read every post on this forum, and I missed what the issues were about that are referred to in this thread. I guess I have gotten pretty good at ignoring people who are standing outside howling at the moon.
Gene a.k.a. The Taco Belch Kid
Quote from: gene on October 03, 2010, 05:48:12 am
I read every post on this forum, and I missed what the issues were about that are referred to in this thread.
Many of the posts that caused issues have mysteriously dissappeared. Just as well. Welcome back stitcher.
Speaking of mysteriously dissappearing....where's Bobby?
Quote from: gene on October 03, 2010, 05:48:12 am
I always look at the internet, and everything on it, as being outside. Even if I am sitting in my living room, the internet is not. So, anytime someone howls at the moon on the internet, I ignore them. They are outside.
If someone on the internet begins to bother me, then I see that as my problem. I am inviting them into my living room and I do what I can to stop that.
I have gotten pretty good at ignoring people who are standing outside howling at the moon.
Good way of looking at it. I like it.
LOLOL....Gene, all I could see of your post when I opened it on my screen was your very first line. I looked at it for a second and thought "what the????" Then read the "just joking" and about fell over laughing.
I completely agree with the outlook on the internet. Anytime I am reading information, chatting with someone, posting information, whatever, I take it with a grain of salt (you just know that super model is a 43yo, bald, fat sweaty upholsterer talking to you). This forum is a little closer to home, though and I take things more to heart. I didn't realize how much time I've spent on it over the years. Considering that September was 10 YEARS I've been in the business (hmmm, gee, that's the same amount of time I've had PRO Stitch up and running) I've been on here a long time. People come and go, but there always seems to be a core who never stray too far. There is an enourmous wealth of information (even if I don't hang off the bow of a boat over the ocean to make a pattern) to be gleaned no matter how much time you have in the game.
Welcome back stitcher_guy! Looking forward to learning more from you. And yes, there are a few on this board who think their way or their work is the best, and we're all wrong. And the way they present their so called advice is rude and abrasive. But if you notice, most of them don't own their own business. Ignore and move on! Most of the "gang" on this board are cool and willing to help out.